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Postby DrTodd » Jan 18th, '07, 14:31



Yes, they stop you at will somewhere in the 65 pages.

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Re: Book Test

Postby dracven » Jan 18th, '07, 15:03

DrTodd wrote:Yes, they stop you at will somewhere in the 65 pages.


Sounds almost exactly what I'm after, come on payday hurry up!!!

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Sep 7th, '07, 19:42

Thought I'd wake this topic up a bit some 6 months later.

I want a book test & I want it now!!! But having learnt patience I shall see what is what first...

(by the way) I have the Marc Paul one (superb DVD by the way :-)) which is very good & someone said you can only select one word which isn't true, you can certainly get a few words, depends on your ability :wink: .

I've only been caught on this once, by a friend who just has to figure everything out.

Anyway am considering buying the Dracula booktest but at £39.99 (ebay) am reading up a bit more on book tests in general first. I think Magicseen reviewed this a while back & pointed out that the book can actually be read & if you don't know what your looking for you'll miss it? However having just had a rummage around magic cafe & someone there says it's very easy to figure out :?

Obviously I want the cleanest book test possible. So the spec gets a choice of say 3 books. From that point on I don't touch the book.
They flick through the book & check all is okay.
They flick to a page of their choice, none of this lets' add a number & divide it by two & subtract 5 etc.

So just a wake up on this topic, any great new ones out in the last few months?

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Postby Part-Timer » Sep 7th, '07, 22:52

I slightly rue the day I decided to sample as many book tests as I could. I was 'spared' a few, by them going out of print, but I own far too many for my health! I must own a couple of dozen marketed effects, plus know methods that can be done on the fly.

The trouble is there are lots of ways to satisfy your criteria. For example, must the choice of book be fair? If not, that opens up many more possibilities.

What sort of price range?

Something that fits your description well is 'Ultimate Flashback', but hey, it's not new, so it must be out of the question, right? :wink:

Dr Todd's book is excellent, but I don't think it suits your requirements. Then again, maybe your requirements should change!

Sorry for being so cryptic, but I think this is one of those subjects where you need to go off and do your own research and, sadly, invest a bit of cash.

But, if you don't want to do that...buy 'Ultimate Flashback'. It's a multi-phase routine, with a free choice of book, as you specified, and you are not restricted to only the first word on the page.

EDIT: You might think that 'Final Flashback' would be an improvement, as it came after 'Ultimate'. However, while I like 'Final', I still think 'Ultimate' is better.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Sep 8th, '07, 01:07

I slightly rue the day I decided to sample as many book tests as I could.

Ha, had the same experience only with wallets around a 2 years ago!

OK Price range is anything, but I'll be pi**ed off if I spend £20 + & get something I don't feel comfortable with. My most important criteria is being able to relax while I perform & not having to worry about slipping by any sleights.

I'm pretty comfortable with the magicians choice so no the book doesn't necessarily have to be a fair choice.

Having just searched on this site for Ultimate Flashback it had some positive comments but no actual review. And having had a wonder again over to MC again no review, but a search turned up a ton of other book tests... Sheesh so much to research, this definatly needs several hours of attention lovingly devoted one afternoon next week when I have no work on, the kettle is on constant boil & the coffee is flowing from mah ears :-)

Thanks for your detailed reply Part Timer & ...

The Hoy Test is easy, very entertaining and can be impromptu. I learn this from Richard Osterlind's MM series.


Anyone reading this know which DVD no. this is on?

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Postby Demitri » Sep 8th, '07, 06:33

I would disagree with the comments you saw at the cafe in regards to the Dracula book test. Bear in mind that the average spectator will do as instructed and little to no more. They are allowed to examine the book. They won't go over it with a fine tooth comb - and the simple fact that you can hand them the book, walk away, and let them skim through it makes everything seem completely fair. Even a spectator who "snoops" will be hard-pressed to discover anything. Bear in mind, while the book CAN be read - your spectator should actually do so. Like most successful book tests, the book becomes secondary to the effect itself. Treated as such, Dracula won't fail you.

Going by the criteria you are asking for, I'd say the following book tests would work very well:

Dracula (all of the books from Alexander Black and Troy Cherry are excellent).
Hoy - It's bold and beautiful
Josh Zandman's IBT is an excellent choice, as well. Easy to learn and lets you focus on presentation.
The Outlaw line - If you're willing to put the time in to study it and get everything in order, this is one of the most incredible series of book tests I've ever seen. Once you have the essentials in order, you can really make this a beautiful and haunting presentation.
Richard Osterlind's Seafire Sequence is another great option. The fact that 1 book is selected from a group of 14 is a nice touch.

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Postby Johnny Bravo » Sep 8th, '07, 13:42

Dracula (all of the books from Alexander Black and Troy Cherry are excellent).
Hoy - It's bold and beautiful
Josh Zandman's IBT is an excellent choice, as well. Easy to learn and lets you focus on presentation.
The Outlaw line - If you're willing to put the time in to study it and get everything in order, this is one of the most incredible series of book tests I've ever seen. Once you have the essentials in order, you can really make this a beautiful and haunting presentation.
Richard Osterlind's Seafire Sequence is another great option. The fact that 1 book is selected from a group of 14 is a nice touch.


What an excellent collection for me to rummage through & read up on, thanks.

Looking forward to it, Lazy afternoon next week, billions of windows open, coffee & donuts & then hitting that pay button :-)

After this I want an impressionist pad, but that's another topic...

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THE BEST BOOK TEST EVER

Postby super mario » Sep 8th, '07, 18:03

hI EVERY ONE
1) sorry about my bad spelling (i am latin but will do my best.
This message and sort of quote is specially for mr Johnny Bravo.

I have read few of your note concerning test books,
Great articles.
I think i got something for you.

this product he say will be ready in dealers by december,
but the prototype works great
is call :
ELECTRONICAL MENTAL MAT and works with RC
cabt say more

There is a guy call KARL BRAVOSKY, witch has a great new system,
totally new , and that can be preforme in a quite relax maner, and
with out hesitations.

His new system can be preformed in two differents ways.
1) open the book at any page style
2) forcing the page

That will allowd you to actually do it impromptus when preforming in private, or actually preforme it on stage, with "open at any page"

This guy has designed a system with witch, you get all the needed information instantly.
Not only you can read loud the word, but actually the wholle paragraphe.

hope this help
super mario

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Postby IAIN » Sep 18th, '07, 11:45

I've just stuck mine up on lulu if we're talking about blatant advertising!

do i need to re-register as someone else?

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Postby Tomo » Sep 18th, '07, 11:54

abraxus wrote:I've just stuck mine up on lulu if we're talking about blatant advertising!

do I need to re-register as someone else?


It's a cracker, too. Full review to follow, as soon as the rush is over and I've had that breakdown I've been promising myself for so long...

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Postby karl » Sep 18th, '07, 18:19

would be nice to see one of your topics on the forum.

You spend most of your time having fun at others
Wich to hear one day, something serious about magic; coming from you

Have you ever heard about THE DUO DINAMICO ? you bouth reminded me of that one today
search in google)

Looking at your topic, I can understand,about the mediocrity of your answers.
Its reminde me the tv morning show at 10 in the mornings

what are you doing in a magic forum, beside critizasing, and mumbling about other poeples?
You got the wrong site?

I can recomende you a very good site, for the type of lines and comments you are printing in this magic forum.

1) Lost and bord loving mathers@yahoo
2) Whats up in the market today?@blablablma.com
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Postby I.D » Sep 18th, '07, 18:21

:?

who are you talking to??

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Postby AndyRegs » Sep 18th, '07, 18:26

Looking at your topic, I can understand,about the mediocrity of your answers.
Its reminde me the tv morning show at 10 in the mornings


If it to either of abraxus or tommo, then you are insulting two members who make some of the most valuable contributions to the forum. I'm hoping that something has been lost in translation here.
Anyway...I thought that the Karl/supermario alter ego game was up! :?

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IS THERE ANYBODY AROUND THAT WHANT TO TALKMAGIC

Postby karl » Sep 18th, '07, 18:33

Oh!!! boy

why such a face ??? (with all my respect, looking at your beautifull make up, no wonder that you sad:

"Why oh why did I sell my Relic!!"

Honestly, how do you expect me to have a serious magic conversation with such a make up on you.
But calm down, my previous, was not for you.

anyone agree ??

we could talk probably pea nuts, cacahuetes, .....
As a goo british, i am shure you got a good sens of humour.

EH ? EH? EH? , IS THERE ANYBODY AROUND THAT WHANT TO TALKMAGIC,,????
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OH, THERE COMEs A NEW ONE !!!

Postby karl » Sep 18th, '07, 18:46

This is getting exciting (spellig?)
who are you???
Nok Nok Nok,,!!!
who is there ??
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Did i mention any name of some one
did i mention yours

I gues they know who they are, because they spend most of there time
"F"....me, since the begining.

once for ever:
karl, super mario and two more that i keep for myself, ...are the same persone/
PPPpppssssss: dont tell any one here, promiss??
Did it tuck you so long to find,
And anyway,that's not of your business, who i am or who i want to be.
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