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Postby Markdini » Jan 29th, '07, 18:18



I know a bloke who knows a geazer . If you want Lady of Mystery.. Genuine cockney types too.... "would you adam and eve it, shes only gone and gave us a grand to further our cockney crime spree ave it large..."

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

We are not falling out young Welshy, we are debating, I think farlsy is an idiot he thinks I am one. We are just talking about who is the bigger idiot.

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Postby Sir_Digby_Chicken_Ceaser » Jan 29th, '07, 19:20

Lady of Mystery wrote:
Markdini wrote:Let this be a lesson if you are going steal from Lady of Mystery steal a couple of grand. She would perfer it.


It'd make it more exciting if I could tell people that some big gangland heavy had taken a couple for grand from my account to fund their organised crime racket. Rather then someone had pinched a couple of quid.


Some women are never happy eh :) Lol

I;d be extremely relieved that they only took two pound. Any ideas what they bought?

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Postby Markdini » Jan 29th, '07, 19:48

Sir_Digby_Chicken_Ceaser wrote:
Lady of Mystery wrote:
Markdini wrote:Let this be a lesson if you are going steal from Lady of Mystery steal a couple of grand. She would perfer it.


It'd make it more exciting if I could tell people that some big gangland heavy had taken a couple for grand from my account to fund their organised crime racket. Rather then someone had pinched a couple of quid.


Some women are never happy eh :) Lol

I;d be extremely relieved that they only took two pound. Any ideas what they bought?


One of them people who gets there car radio half inched but complains "They didnt take my tapes!"

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby JackWright » Jan 29th, '07, 20:20

Markdini wrote:One of them people who gets there car radio half inched but complains "They didnt take my tapes!"


Lol, that happened to a friend of mine! :lol: Say's something about her taste in music

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Postby Sir_Digby_Chicken_Ceaser » Jan 29th, '07, 20:28

The best ones when people take the wheels but leave the car :lol:

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Postby dat8962 » Jan 29th, '07, 20:38

On the same type of subject "apparently" if you are mugged and marched of to a cash point to enter your pin number, and enter it backwards, it allows the transaction but notifies the police and blocks the card as well.

anyone know if this is true?


As Mandrake has said, it's a myth and credit card transactions are typicallyauthorised by computer and are only flagged for human scrutiny if certain criteria is met.

Most fraudulent transactions under a certain value are written off by the card company rather than reported to the police as they don't have an infinate resource to investigate everything.

The best way is to chase the company and to report the fraud to the police yourself, even if the amount is reimbursed. Even then the police are in a similar boat than the card companies in that they sometimes just can't be bothered.

I would also brace yourself for your next statement as this is sometimes where you find out the real extent of the amount that has been spent.

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Postby JackWright » Jan 29th, '07, 22:00

dat8962 wrote:Most fraudulent transactions under a certain value are written off by the card company rather than reported to the police as they don't have an infinate resource to investigate everything.

So, without wanting to sound too criminal.. If gangs were to go around stealing lots of small fees, but not getting too greedy with the ammounts, how long do you think they could last?

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Postby Markdini » Jan 29th, '07, 22:03

ah you crook, and you aint even cockney, Now there was a bloke who worked in a bank and stole 1/4 of a cent of loads of bank accounts and become very rich doing it.

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby dat8962 » Jan 29th, '07, 22:59

So, without wanting to sound too criminal.. If gangs were to go around stealing lots of small fees, but not getting too greedy with the ammounts, how long do you think they could last?


Now there lies the dilemma! Getting caught is sometime a bit of a lottery as most people caught in possession of a stolen credit card are arrested for something else, often minor.

The majority of orgasnised criminals, rather then opportunists that commit this type of crime tend not to get caught for the amounts that they take but for the prolificness of use.

Most fraudsters will make significant valued purchases where they can, whether opportunist or pro's.

Like most things in life, you takes your chance!

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Postby Perfelti » Jan 29th, '07, 23:47

They had to steal your card so they could buy themselfs a pack of gum. :lol:

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Postby Beardy » Jan 30th, '07, 00:12

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Postby dat8962 » Jan 30th, '07, 00:13

A tube of colgate will give you that ring of confidence :?

Not a slogan that you can use these days though :wink:

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Postby Marvell » Jan 30th, '07, 11:18

jugglemonkey wrote:On the same type of subject "apparently" if you are mugged and marched of to a cash point to enter your pin number, and enter it backwards, it allows the transaction but notifies the police and blocks the card as well.


What happens if you have a pallendromic pin number?

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Postby Marvell » Jan 30th, '07, 11:54

dat8962 wrote:credit card transactions are typicallyauthorised by computer and are only flagged for human scrutiny if certain criteria is met.


I've written software that does this. Your general fraudster has stolen your card details and expects you to notice quite quickly and so spends fast and large on fencable goods like jewelery, etc.

This is normally quite easy to spot, since it's so out of character (unless it's not). However, come Christmas time, everyone spends like a fraudster and it's far harder to spot.

I guess that spending small is a tester, rather than the fraud itself. To test if the card has been cancelled, that is. It's certainly quite a new profile, we didn't have any checks for it in our software.

But then, ... fraudster profiles change significantly over a six month period, transaction fraud is only really confirmed three months after the transaction itself and people change their spending habits seasonally.

Fraud is also very very infrequent and quite hard to train against.

This coupled with the fact that the CC fraud software does not have access to your balance, credit limit, repayments and due date means that it becomes an even harder job.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 30th, '07, 14:59

Marvell wrote:
jugglemonkey wrote: pallendromic pin number?


I lover that word!!! I'm going to have to remember that and use it in the future.

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