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those that what to catch up on this show can do here

http://www.channel4.com/4od/

they are all on there

crozboz wrote:Just by the way, does anyone know what ambigrams are called if they say something different when turned upside down?

It's called a Perceptual shift ambigram according to wikipedia, although I'm sure I found another name for it whilst searching last week.

By the way, the last week's episode is always on 4oD for free, but after a week you have to pay.

Thanks, I cant find any on images.google.com,

Does anyone know where to find some?

Derren is just soooooo cool! I love this program!

crozboz wrote:
Anyway, I saw Derren live last year, and he spent the entire show doing his psychological forcing, daily mail, page 14, 14 inch nail etc. Then at the end of it all, he took great pride in revealing it.

That wasn't how he did what he did. That's how he CLAIMED he did it for entertainment purposes. The claim was very entertaining but had nothing to do with the actual trick.

How he says he does things is rarely how he really does them (with a few exceptions like muscle reading).

I caught the second episode last night. I'm not actually going to watch any more, I don't find it entertaining and the one extra trick he did was dull and badly presented. I find you can reduce the content of the entire program down to about 5-10 minutes. It appears to be no longer targetted at people's intelligence, more that it's just something that he fancied doing. It's a bit of a third album.

right, very clever. Hmm, i think he may still reveal the trick/treat ambigram at the end. That does seem his style.

Sorry Rob Laughter,

I'm watching it right now. The little old woman seems so sweet.

I'm so glad she got a treat. OK, sure i knew what it was going to be before it started, but still.

OK, for our american cousins, who dont have channel 4. Here's what happened.

He got on a bus, which had stopped, and everyone left. He walked up to a little white haired lady, and she picked the treat card.

He then stood in the middle of Madame Tussauds (wax works), with a soundtrack running, and everyone that stood and listened, suddenly got stuck and fell asleep.

He then teaches her to play poker. She can then guess what card someone is holding.

*ADVERTS* (PS3 - British Gas - Mars Planets(?) - McDonalds - Homebase - "The Breed" - O2 - Guinness - Channel 4 Movies) *BACK ON*

Carries on teaching poker. Reading Bluffs. Keeping a straight face. Can tell which is High/Low cards.

Hes in America. Las Vegas. Nightclub. Talks to a woman. Some subliminal messaging, I'm sure. (Keeps touching her arm (suspicious)). She then feels better about herself. Takes four coloured cards - Blue Green Yellow Red. Talks about color in biology/psychology. He holds up yellow, and she says thats its not really yellow. And she then thinks that its red. It is definitely red. And the red one is now black. They all go outside. Her car is red, but she thinks its black, and the car she thinks of as red, is really yellow.

5 of the best UK champions vs a tiny female pensioner. Commentators think she will last about 10 minutes.

Nick Persuade, Neil Channing, Anthony Holden 2 others, and her. She survives 10 rounds in. People try and outbid her. One guy goes all in against her. He loses.
She beats another 2 professionals.
2 pros against her.
Another one out.
Jeff(?) is left. She goes all in. She gets second place rather than 1st at odds of 45:1.

Still very good.

Who was dealing?

I've been happily watching the episodes on the 'Net, but I appreciate the breakdown as I don't get to watch them until they get uploaded to YouTube a few days after they air.

Ciao,
Rob

It was a pretty enjoyable show. My favourite bit was the colour blind stuff, good to see him doing a bit of the old anchoring and NLP!

I have to admit that the first 2 episodes left me completely cold. Watching the first 2 "TRICKS" left me feeling decidely uncomfortable.

The method behind them may be extremely clever, but seeing people in dicomfort like that does not entertain me. The one with dummy made my wife quite upset.

Personally I don't think theres a need in entertainment to show people in discomfort. Mind you I never likes Beadles about either.

Luckily I found the third episode much better and thoughroughly enjoyed the Maddame Tausauds scene.

A final comment I'd like to make is I can't understand why people are so intent on unmasking the way he does his effects. Very few people would ever be able to do the effects he does and if you could, it would only be a pale imitation of the origional.

Saying that I still think Derren is one of the most origional and enjoyable entertainers out there.

I'm probably going to get slated for this post.

Cheers anyway.
Alan

crozboz wrote:He's in America. Las Vegas. Nightclub. Talks to a woman. Some subliminal messaging, I'm sure. (Keeps touching her arm (suspicious)).

Not suspicious but anchoring, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_(NLP)

He set up SURE and UNSURE anchors then triggered the UNSURE about the colour then triggered the SURE once she agreed yellow was red.

I thought it was the best show of this series by far, in spite of the absence of "magic". It was confident and fascinating, unlike last week.

I agree it was the best so far after the disappointing and inconclusive first two episodes. The little old lady was very sweet and seemed to be a fan of Derren's!
Loved the waxwork hypno and the Vegas 'colour blind' effects too.
Yes, he's still got and hopefully there's more of this quality to come.

I wasn't very impressed with the first two episodes either. I found myself getting bored half way through and being fidegety but last nights was enjoyable and I hope there's more like this.

I loved the Tussaud's induction. Very classy.

Presented with a choice of two cards, one with "trick" and the other with "treat" written on them, what do we say boys and girls? "I'll have whichever says treat please, Derren"