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I'd rather pay our Lawrence for it thank you very much. He's only a poor student and ketamine isn't getting any cheaper.

And Memento appears to be described in Nicholas Einhorn's "The Art of Magic and Sleight of Hand" anyway...

expect the DIY book up at some point tomorrow then. I'm going to include sections on the 101 ways you can set up the x-deck and bits about creating your own gimmick decks.

Sorry, wasnt trying to be a party pooper. Just giving you the heads up, so you can give a nod in the right direction. In Memento, there is an addendum (as he didnt realise it existed until later) where daniel madison credits the x-deck. So that seems to be the original evolution from the ID.

AndyRegs wrote:Sorry, wasnt trying to be a party pooper. Just giving you the heads up, so you can give a nod in the right direction. In Memento, there is an addendum (as he didnt realise it existed until later) where daniel madison credits the x-deck. So that seems to be the original evolution from the ID.

...I'm now informed that the oracle deck, while giving the same effect as the x-deck, doesn't use the same method.

...I'm now informed that the oracle deck, while giving the same effect as the x-deck, doesn't use the same method.

I dont own the x-deck, but I do own memento. And if we a talking about the same principle that is used in the ID, then it is the same as memento. You get the deck and a set of ideas of how to use it.

The Addendum in memento states: "...although memento shares a similar principle, both memento and the x-deck support different performances with different outcomes."

There was a review of x-deck on this site here. The main difference here it seems, is that the reveal card is a different colour as well as having the x. Where as memento has all the cards the same colour:

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic4437-0-asc-0.php

DIY guide currently waiting final approval

bronz wrote:I'd rather pay our Lawrence for it thank you very much. He's only a poor student and ketamine isn't getting any cheaper.

it's not just for horses!


e-booklette on sale now
note: it is simply a guide and therefore does not come with everything you need to make one, but beyond some cards it doesn't involve spending a lot more money; and if used right can become a great asset.

http://stores.lulu.com/lawrence_turner

and thankyou whoever that was

I did the Oracle at a double birthday celebration this weekend to deliver a birthday message to both celebrants at once. It went down a storm and got me a kiss and a cuddle from one - a very attractive girl. Seriously, people were coming up to me telling me that it blew them away. I know I have a presentation idea in Lawrence's manuscript, but even so, this is a seriously strong effect, it's a doddle to do, and it's capable of delivering any message you need. And you might get a kiss too!

I bought this a few weeks ago and have only just put it together, I did it down the pub on Saturday afternoon and Sunday night and it went down a storm.
Thanks Lawrance

Lawrence wrote:so, one day i was sat around with an ID; being irritated at not being able to give a proper show of the rest of the deck, and trying to remember the damn system too (which i know isn't a hard one, but i forget things sometimes). So i set about trying to make something i saw as being better, and a few weeks later i've come up with this....

This really has nothing to do with what you are saying but I did want to point something out, because it may help those who have any sort of issue with the 'system' for invisble deck. It completely removes the formula from the equation so to speak.

Spectator has named the card. The deck still boxed is in your hand.

Normally you take the cards out of the box keeping them level with the ground. You spread through the deck and come upon the face down card and of course it is the thought of card.

Here is how I do it. Same situation. Deck in hand still boxed. I know the spectators card. Remove the cards from the box. I hold them so the faces are facing the spectator and the 'backs' are facing me. (the cards are parallel to me not the floor) HAHAHAHA!
As you go through the deck the spectator see's all the faces except for one card, they see the back. Turn it around and it's the spectators card.

You just have to make a change or two to your existing ID. That is...oh man how do I say this without giving anything away? I forget the original formula because I've been doing it my way for so long. I think the secret number is 13. If not, you should know what I'm talking about anyway. Well forget 13 and think EVEN AND ODD.

There is no way I can get it wrong. No math, no guessing, no remembering anything. This is not my idea it was shown to me years ago by Richard Saunders.

Any questions and you have an ID send me a private post and I'll explain in more detail.

bmat wrote:Here is how I do it. Same situation. Deck in hand still boxed. I know the spectators card. Remove the cards from the box. I hold them so the faces are facing the spectator and the 'backs' are facing me. (the cards are parallel to me not the floor) HAHAHAHA!
As you go through the deck the spectator see's all the faces except for one card, they see the back. Turn it around and it's the spectators card.

But you can't have anyone stood behind you or to the side of you for that to work. The traditional reveal only requires you not to have anyone under you, which is a lot easier to acheive!

queen of clubs wrote:

bmat wrote:Here is how I do it. Same situation. Deck in hand still boxed. I know the spectators card. Remove the cards from the box. I hold them so the faces are facing the spectator and the 'backs' are facing me. (the cards are parallel to me not the floor) HAHAHAHA!
As you go through the deck the spectator see's all the faces except for one card, they see the back. Turn it around and it's the spectators card.

But you can't have anyone stood behind you or to the side of you for that to work. The traditional reveal only requires you not to have anyone under you, which is a lot easier to acheive!

Actually you cannot have anyone behind you, you can have people to the side. It is very rare that I perform in a situation were people are behind me or for that matter to the extreme side. So it works for me.

If you want a truly brilliant ID using no gaffs what so ever find Micheal Close's. Granted you will need lots of time to practice but its a killer especially in front of magicians.

Is this deck hard to make, I'm not very good with arts and crafts etc.

Regards, Glenn