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greedoniz wrote:.....sigh. I have nothing left in me. I give in

Now now Greedo. The boy is very much sensative and needs guidance.

To be honest I've read so many threads lately that are just banality personified and go nowhere that I need reminding why I love it here so much.
Luckily around here somewhere I know there is magic being discussed that is engaging, knowledgeable, constructive, fun and useful. I'll be there....

please consider my toys well and truly thrown out of the pram.....and I'm not going to pick them up.

Yeah Lets give Mr Kras what he needs to learn to get to the resturants I recomend theres two dvds :

Sankey real work on resturants and bars

David stones real secrets of close-up magic volume 1

Also learn the Paul Harris hot shot cut.

Apart from that micheal there is loads of info out there go seek and ye shall find.

Michael, I'm truly surprised that you honestly think someone would get kicks out of putting down those similar to your ebullient self.

From the way you have responded to the posts in this thread, I urge you to read through the threads people have seriously responded to. The same advice offered to you countless times in the said threads would fit yet again here. However, this time, actually take heed of the advice and do not simply brush it off with another throwaway comment.

For clarity's sake; none of the above was meant in a sarcastic tone.

I don't... I thought you were being seriou and, hence, it hurt me. Markdini, thank you for the recommendations. I have the Sankey DVD and it is fantastic, and will look into the David Stone tapes. Thank you for sticking up for me.

NOW, let's get back on topic shall we? Restaurant magic. How do I get people to take me seriously enough to at least audtion for them? How much should I charge per hour? How long should I stay at each table maximum?

Thank you!

Michael Kras

I don't think I need say any more.

Consider my previous posts retracted, as you don't seem to have paid much attention to their real content. I'll try to refrain from continuing to post in this topic, as I don't really wish to be the sole cause for its short relocation to the sinbin.

I simply hope you find someone willing to offer you help after your track record for actually listening to advice.

Harry, I do read the advice and take it to heart. I had forgiven you before, and no more needs to be said on that. But I value your advice as I do everybody, and I am very sorry to you for continuously bringing up how "hurt I was". This was a whiny, stupid thing to do and I am sorry. I should read a post more thoroughly before making comments on it.

Michael Kras

Michael Kras wrote:I should read a post more thoroughly before making comments on it.

Oh my God! I think he's finally had a breakthrough everybody! Yes, Kras, read the posts about you and your magic. They contain very good constructive criticism and sometimes even support. Now that you've had this breakthrough, it would probably be best to work through all the threads you've started and read what people are actually saying.

Tell me Mike, what does it fee like to become Enlightened?

I feel it, brother, and it feels GOOOOOOD.

By the way, next YouTube video.. Crystal Cut By Michael Kras coming in an hour.

DARN I wish Harry Truman was still here to read my apology. Ah well...

Crystal Cut is almost here! 61% uploaded onto Youtube! :)

Mike...

Shut up and read this post; you obviously ignored my last. Turn off whatever that deluded inner monologue is saying and read what I have to tell you. There is (what I'd like to think is) some valuable advice below.

If you're making $150 a night in tips, don't charge by the hour; most employers won't take kindly to working for hire and then begging for tips on top of that. You ought to write a book on working for tips, because the most I've made in a night is $75 (unsolicited, mind you) over three hours. Begging or asking for tips, though, is often considered rude.

I'm appaled that you consider your hour or two of work "plenty of restaurant experience" (or was that the arrogance kicking in yet again). I've been doing it part-time for a little under a year now and I've still got much to learn, so please, if you don't mind, share your infinite wisdom with the rest of us, O Wise One!

In order to get the interview, go between 2 and 4 on a Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday (as they are off-peak times), eat lunch (preferably without mommy and daddy, I'd imagine) and ask for the manager. Tell him you have an interesting idea on how to increase sales and help keep customers coming back to their restaurant. With your total lack of skill (admit it, you're 100% clueless when it comes to restaurant work), be prepared to work a few tables in order to prove your worth (or lack thereof). If you get hired without a demo, you're likely to * the manager off and most likely taint your image in your city.

Once you get the gig, promise me you'll never perform No Entry or whatever you called your miserable card-to-pocket. While Jay Sankey may be a great magician, realize that he's created literally thousands of effects and selected precious few for his restaurant work. Your effects need to be 1.) proven commercial quality 2.) quick(ish) 3.) visual 4.) entertaining 5.) well-honed. Essentially, you need to perform something that I've never seen from you in any of your videos.

Now, Mikey, we've all tried to point out in different ways that you are NOT yet an accomplished magician (though you claim to be), you have NOT offered us any indication that you're ready to lecture or perform commercially, and you are NOT willing to take our advice. You skim through the posts, respond to something that you THOUGHT we've said, and totally ignore what we've said. That's insulting, Michael. Your vain "thank yous" are almost condescending!

I'll give you credit--you are indeed more advanced than some of the members here. You're a LOT less experienced than most, yet you put on this show that you have all this experience to draw from. Two hours of restaurant work is not experience! Two months or even two years is not experience! Ten, fifteen, or twenty years may be enough, but two hours is NOTHING. Quit fooling yourself, quit trying to pull one over on us (it's not going to work). Take our advice and go learn something!!! (Exclamation points added for EMPHASIS).

I'm through with this...

Ciao,
Rob

WOW Rob, That was GREAT! I have definitely taken it all to heart. I apologize for sounding arrogant, and although your post was a little harsh, it was helpful. Fell better now that you've yelled at snobby magic Kras

I by FAR do not ignore what you say! I use all of your advice and it really is helpful. GOD, I feel like such a jerk. I apologize for all the awful things I have said and sounding like an arrogant prick. I feel ashamed.

Rob, you're my hero. Maybe if he won't listen to it from me, he'll understand it coming from you.

My hero too know lol. He frightened me into submission. I am going ot go cry now.

Michael Kras wrote:My hero too know lol. He frightened me into submission. I am going ot go cry now.

Just don't get any on the keyboard; shorting it out would inhibit your ability to post every fifteen minutes, now wouldn't it?