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remember the thumb controls the hand and therfore alows you to control the mechanism of the key through her thumb.

now lets see any of them forum clue hunters get around that description without actualy knowing the secret .

ps have you tried the rod test or book test, wereby the key sits inocently on a book or rod and turns when you want it to.
my favourate is to have it set on an upturnd glass while you hold the tray reel spooky man.

a key cuter can make you up few extra keys which you can the doctor for key bending routines or tang (key part ala golden key) removal etc

I bought a similar trick called Spirity Key, simply because I had the same design in Golden Key.

It's weird. I mean, it takes heaps of practice to get this right. I try to take about half a minute for the key to rotate, but after the "teeth" stands vertically to the floor, if I'm not being careful it goes right to the palm (you see what I'm saying...it doesn't rotate, it just drops dead). The first hallf of the rotation is easy but the latter is tricky, and it's what I've been working on since the purchase.

Anyway, trust me on this one; there are people who can't figure this out! They're like "Oh my, how did you do that!?" But the best thing is not to hand them the key....they might try themselves out and eventually find out the secret. I normally switch it to Golden key which can make the key examinable at the end of the routine.

i havr this too and I'm afraid there is a major design floor in the (workings) to keep it the same as golden key which makes it hard to perform the second half of the tern.

its a shame as it an ideal combo and would be nice if they redesigned the two keys and sold them as a pair or maybey adding an extra key that allows you to snap the rig end off the barrel

if anyone knows how to contact the origionators i'd like to hear, even better get them to come on here as the haunted key is my best addvert yet.

Haunted Key....yawn.
You can do that trick with a pen if you can't budget the cost.

true you can do it with a can of baked bean too, but it dosnt have the impact of a key its not the trick its the impact man.
the silver version which is based on a regular house key is better designed to do the task as previously mentioned.

sonny do you have a particular critisism about this utility device or are you just making a one liner post as you can get cheeper copys in magic sets today cost isnt realy an issue, you can get a deck of cards for 10p but they arnt as good as a deck of bikes.

Sonny, if you are going to knock something, I think you should explain why ??

I entirely agree with you. If I tried the haunted key in any pub or club in Yorkshire I'd be laughed out. Just the same as if I used a stripper deck.

I think everyone needs to consider what is known and familiar in their area, AND its often different in other area's. Give them consideration too please.

I don't know why its different round here, generations grew up with club entertainment, I remember my grandad being quite competent at magic, perhaps most were in those days.

But please, count yourself lucky if you can get away with performing simple magic, I can't. I've lost count of the number of times I've been challenged by someone performing miracles with a stripper or wizzard deck, to the joy of their friends. Using counting or spelling effects. I wouldn't dream of using anything like that. To ask for a pack from behind the bar, and then duplicate and better their tricks truly raises you to a level beyond their imagination.

When I first started in magic my kids had things like the stripper deck, haunted key, professors nightmare and others worked out in minutes. I've even had OAP's shouting out that they knew how something was done (and that was before everyone decided to reveal all on TV).

I find that I have to be very carefull what I use. If you are lucky enough to get away with murder, be thankfull. And for the others who have to work harder than the norm to get away with what you do, don't mock those who are lucky to get away with simpler effects.

Whether we can get away with performing the haunted key or not, we are all magicians with a common interest

AND I've been out and won the pub quiz so I'm a bit more talkative than normal

thanxs tenko for that, sonny I'm not sure if you have read this entire thread or not but let me fill you in in some background, iv'e been doing magic for around 20 years now ten of thoughs comercialy covering kids shows through outdoor events to coporate work.
in my time i have done lots of coin work (all slieghts) and some card work (mixed) as well as prop based and mentalism, in the past 5 years i have been battling an me like condition that has cut my work from a 100hr week to nothing and i have had to adapt my magic to increasingly rely on gaffs and selfworker like scotch and soda, its soul destroying when you can no longer do a tenkie or mussle pass but thats by the by.

the haunted key is my pet trick its something that i can still do and infact is helped by the tremors i now have all the time and in the past as i have previously mentioned has got me hundreds of bookings.

today its avalable in every magic book, magic set, and printed on council loo roll so its dying or more properly its being killed off but i still get asked to do it because of the way i present it, so if i seem a bit angry please escuse me this trick is one of the few pleasures i have left magic wise

magicdiscoman,

Please acept my appologies for my omission, yes, we all have to adapt our skills/abilities/performances to what people in our locality accept/believe ??

But very much more importantly, we also have to adapt ourselves to our own disabilities that befall us as we grow older. Show me a magician who has stopped the aging process ?? I was injured 10 years ago when I fell down a deep hole and damaged 2 disks in my lower back. As a result I am registered as partially disabled and some mornings can hardly walk when I get up.

The young 'ens don't know they're born

The young 'ens don't know they're born

too true

WOW...All I said was yawn and it has been taken as critisism and negativity twords this trick. Can I have an opinion or does this forum frown on a persons thoughts???
I even suggested a household item you can do this trick with....

I'll stay over here from now on and you can banter as you like.


Thanks for the week and a half.
Sonny

Sonny...be calm. It happens you know.

There are times when one writes something on a forum and you mental "tone of voice" doesn't come through at all to the other readers.

Your comment seemed flippant without backing it and you touched on an effect that (if you read the previous comments fully) many people have true affection for, myself included.

You are totally welcome to have an opinion and comment upon tricks. At the same time you must expect that a "blast" of negative opinion, without back up, using a seemingly dismissive word ('yawn') about an admired topic is bound to get some peoples hackles up, even if followed by a suggestion (that in light of your previous one-word critisism looked like sarcasm, you must admit).

Hang out for a bit, if you are having continuing conflicts then fair enough.

Perhaps a deep breath by everyone and a little less knee-jerking might help.

I've e-mailed Sonny along similar lines and can only echo Tom's call for a more laid back approach to such issues. We can all agree to disagree!

Hi..

I've been thinking of getting this (just for the hell of it really) but there appears to be mixed reviews on this forum. However.. after watching "faking it" the other night I must say that I was impressed with the effect, especially when it turns in the spectators hand.

Being a "cardie" I really am clueless when it comes to how props work and still don't really know how this works (although I have a good idea) unlike cards, where I can generally work out some way of repeating what I've seen fairly quickly.

I just can't wait to do this is someone else's hand (Has anyone any tips on doing this ? If you do then please PM me as it should arrive in a day or so).

In the meanitime, I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Magicdiscoman.. It's the way you perform and not just the trick. If you saw "Faking it" then I think this proved the case with tricks like torn and restored newspaper etc.. where we all know how it works but it's still entertaining when presented right and although we either know, or can work out, how things are done, the majority of people don't watch these shows and still have no idea at all which makes magic even more fun for me.

Slippery

The key does tend to split people. I still use it in my table -hopping bookings. It makes a change from cards or coins. You can do a good effect if you use two keys on the same hand (boy and girl key). It may not be as good as some of the newer effects on the market but i still regard it as a useful tool. We can all agree to disagree