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Postby beeno » Jul 8th, '07, 15:59



Marvell wrote:Unless you right click in the text box, select languages en_GB and then it remembers the dictionary.


Hey thanks.
My browser doesn't chastise me for speaking the Queen's English now. :)

I.D. wrote:whats wrong with dressing decent.. a smart pair of jeans.. a tidy shirt, t-shirt or top and some classy shoes or smart trainers.

You sound just like my Mother. :lol:

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Postby Lord Freddie » Jul 8th, '07, 16:11

What shocks me is that usually to be a good magician you need to have some degree of communication skills and a way with the language you speak to make a 'trick' into a memorable moment of wonder.
It's disheartenting when you see some of the people that post on these forums that can hardly string a sentence together. You really wonder what their presentation is like when performing.
They are usually the ones that whinge that they tried (insert highly regarded effect) and the specs were totally underwhelmed.

I wonder why?

As for text speak, I don't advocate the emergence of mobile phones for this - I blame Prince.

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Postby Tomo » Jul 8th, '07, 16:21

Maybe it's the culture and how it's mutated into a series of marketing opportunities that's to blame. Kids take their cues from music and if music is a bland excuse to part people from their pocket money instead of really being about rebellion, you get no real rebellion but a series of pointless, unhappy clones with no idea why they feel so frustrated because they don't know it's natural to rebel and express their developing sense of individuality at that age. That makes kids who are different and who don't accept contemporary orthodoxy genuinely worth listening to because they think for themselves and haven't accepted that life is about having the right phone/haircut/whatever. Like Orwell said, "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Not allowing yourself to become a dutiful junior consumer is to tell the truth, in my opinion.

I need a lie down...

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Postby Mikey.666 » Jul 8th, '07, 17:13

Tomo wrote:Maybe it's the culture and how it's mutated into a series of marketing opportunities that's to blame. Kids take their cues from music and if music is a bland excuse to part people from their pocket money instead of really being about rebellion, you get no real rebellion but a series of pointless, unhappy clones with no idea why they feel so frustrated because they don't know it's natural to rebel and express their developing sense of individuality at that age. That makes kids who are different and who don't accept contemporary orthodoxy genuinely worth listening to because they think for themselves and haven't accepted that life is about having the right phone/haircut/whatever. Like Orwell said, "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Not allowing yourself to become a dutiful junior consumer is to tell the truth, in my opinion.

I need a lie down...


That's exactly right!
I remember when I frist started skateboarding, about three years ago. I would have never of dreamed of wearing Adidas, or Nike, or anything that was not remotely skater or mosher and would never have dreamed of listening to rap or hip hop or anything other the rock.

But, I look back now and I think "What a d**khead" I think it's silly to be narrowminded and not expand and experience new things. Don't knock it if you haven;t tried it. Many people today will call certain bands/music a load of s**t. But many of them have probably never listened to enough of it, or read up about it to pass judgement. I always give new bands a chance before I go off and say they're rubbish or I don't like them. What gets me is how can so many people just listen to one type of music? Surely you must get bored. I listen to anything from classic rock to heavy metal to old school hip hop to dance. It's great!

I've grown up in a short period of time, and grown to be an individual. It's good to experience other types of culture in our country, it gives you a broader view on life, and you learn a lot of skills!

Well that's how I look at it...

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Postby Marvell » Jul 8th, '07, 18:47

There's nothing wrong with having a consistent attitude to style and clothing. If we didn't, we'd all look, not the same, but equally as normal. I don't wear trainers, because they don't suit my look and feel. Nor do I wear shell suits, or any form of trousers, unless it's a formal thing. That's just the way I am.

The day I start wearing sensible clothes or spend less on them because "they are a waste of money" is the day I'll know I've stopped caring and I can hoist the belt of my Farrahs up to my armpit and wear a nice pair of grey loafers and a checked shirt, roll over and die.

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Postby Lord Freddie » Jul 8th, '07, 19:17

I'm with Tomo in thinking that individuality and original thinking have completely gone out of the window these days in favour of a load of generic clones who subscribe to corporate branding.

The students of the 60's would have revolted against this kind of thing, but these days people aren't bothered about what's going on in the world, but more concerned whether that have seen the latest dire Hollywood film, have the trendiest CD's (which won't be listened to again in a few months time) and whether their sportswear (despite not participating in any sports) is the most expensive.

everything has been 'dumbed down' these days so that imbeciles don't feel bad about having an IQ that matches the amount of hit singles Michelle McManus has had.

Even school sports days don't have winners and losers anymore, but subscribe to the liberal theory that "every one is a winner". They're not.
Life has some real losers.

They also make the exams p*ss easy so that even a chimp could get a place at Oxford.

Controlled and subdued, that's the youth of today. I think David Icke's theories about something in the water and an elite Illuminati controlling the world have some substance to them.

(Not sure about the lizards though)

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Postby Mikey.666 » Jul 8th, '07, 19:58

Lord Freddie wrote: but these days people aren't bothered about what's going on in the world, but more concerned whether that have seen the latest dire Hollywood film, have the trendiest CD's (which won't be listened to again in a few months time) and whether their sportswear (despite not participating in any sports) is the most expensive.


It's so true.

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Postby IAIN » Jul 9th, '07, 16:08

emo kids should be chastised and have their chains taken away...how dare they shorten the word emotion(al) down to a seseame street character..

if it were in honour of emo philips, then fair enough...

up with this i will not put...

though, admittedly, I'm rather fond of not capitalising the singular letter "i"..i've always found it too similar to L in some san serif typefaces otherwise...

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Postby Marvell » Jul 9th, '07, 16:28

I've never been a of people not capitalising Is, because there is never any confusion in context. Even if it does look like a lower case L, can you think of an example of when it becomes ambiguous?

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Postby Mandrake » Jul 9th, '07, 16:31

Just to make it easier, I've added the lower case version to the word censor to automatically change it to upper case. If it causes problems, just holler and I'll change it back again.

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Postby IAIN » Jul 9th, '07, 16:34

Marvell wrote:I've never been a of people not capitalising Is, because there is never any confusion in context. Even if it does look like a lower case L, can you think of an example of when it becomes ambiguous?


Illness if this was a different typeface, if you really wanted to know..i could make a list for you? but i don't think it's warranted... :shock:

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Postby Marvell » Jul 9th, '07, 16:36

Mandrake wrote:Just to make it easier, I've added the lower case version to the word censor to automatically change it to upper case. If it causes problems, just holler and I'll change it back again.

That won't affect words beginning with I at the beginning of a sentence.

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Postby Marvell » Jul 9th, '07, 16:39

abraxus wrote:Illness if this was a different typeface, if you really wanted to know..I could make a list for you? but I don't think it's warranted... :shock:

(case for clarity, not volume)

ILLNESS is not ambiguous, because there are no words:

LLLNESS
LILNESS
LLINESS
IILNESS
ILINESS
IILNESS
IIINESS

For instance, using the form "if" at the beginning of a sentence is not ambiguous because there is no word LF.

Since I'm sure you know this, I apologise for not making myself clear.

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Postby IAIN » Jul 9th, '07, 16:43

no need to apologise, but i've noticed you really do love yer lists! you're a very particular man arent you...

no offense meant, nor taken :)

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Postby Mandrake » Jul 9th, '07, 16:46

Marvell wrote:That won't affect words beginning with I at the beginning of a sentence.
Nope, just the solitary ones.

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