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Yes, we know there are already methods around for this kind of effect and we are not using the same methods. Hence we will not release it if it is not original. I'll not discuss the effect here again until we are sure that the method is original. This is getting a little off topic btw lol.


Ace

I can't wait to learn "Factory Sealed" by Nick Verna, the originator of the Coin through Factory Sealed Bottle.

Finally the inner secrets will be taught on how to accomplish this mind blowing spectacle.

My props are going to Ace here.

It looks like a great effect! I've gone off coin in bottles now, however, I can tell a good effect when I see one.

Good job!

OK, first off all I just have to say, I think the magic world has gone to s***. People's ideas or creative property used to be respected. Today people are lying and stealing all over the place and nobody seems to care.

The trend seems to be: "I'm not nearly creative enough to come up with something original so I'll just let these really talented people who can think for themselves do all of the leg work, and then I'll just steal it and put a different name on it and sell it. Nobody will ever know, and if they do, screw 'em. What are they gonna do about it"?

The current state of magic is pretty lame if you ask me. But it's not just magic, it's everything else in this society. But I digress.

This version of CIB was created in 1999 by Adam Williamson in Wichita, KS USA. and was titled "Pop Top Drop". A description of it first appeared in an issue of the "Linking Ring" that same year. Shortly after this Williamson submitted this original effect plus others to the "David Blaine Road Trip Contest" featured in "Magic Magazine". Blaine was very intrigued by the effect and inquired about featuring this effect in an upcomming television special. (guess it wasn't good enough for Blaine. It never made the cut). Shortly after that it was published as a feature effect in Magic Magazine V09 N6 February 2000. (Why pay $30 for the trick when you can order a back issue for $6) Williamson then marketed the effect through Stevens Magic Emporium where it finally fizzled out and has laid dormant until now. Someone has dug it out of the grave, dusted it off and breathed false life into an effect that is now forced to walk with the living dead.

The main difference here is marketing. The original was marketed using 20 oz. soda bottles like 7 up or sprite. The other difference here is, in the original when the spectator opened the bottle they could tell it had never really been opened by the sudden release of pressure and the very distinct sound a soda bottle makes when it is first opened.

But there was a reason this effect didn't take off it the first place.

#1. It's very quirky to set up
#2. It's not practical at all

When done right, it really is a mind blower, but the situation must be perfect. Best suited for a parlour performance.

I just think people need to give credit where credit is due and stop stealing people's intellectual property and making money off of it. It is ethically wrong, not to mention illegal. Williamson may just have a lawsuit here. Hmmmm.......


I just have three words: Miniature Hex Wrench

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Save money. Buy the back issue of Magic Magazine V09 N6 February 2000
for only $6 compared to the $30 the other guy will charge you.

With Williamson's permission the instructons to this effect will become available online for free within the next few months. I will post a link when it becomes available. With your help maybe we can put cheaters like these out of business. If you know of any other blatant rip offs let us know and we'll expose them too.

OK, first off all I just have to say, I think the magic world has gone to s***. People's ideas or creative property used to be respected. Today people are lying and stealing all over the place and nobody seems to care.

Yes, I agree that there are such people around. However, I am not one of them.

Sealed & Stuck is my own creation. I hope you can respect my original ideas and creative peoperty.

This version of CIB was created in 1999 by Adam Williamson in Wichita, KS USA. and was titled "Pop Top Drop". A description of it first appeared in an issue of the "Linking Ring" that same year. Shortly after this Williamson submitted this original effect plus others to the "David Blaine Road Trip Contest" featured in "Magic Magazine". Blaine was very intrigued by the effect and inquired about featuring this effect in an upcomming television special. (guess it wasn't good enough for Blaine. It never made the cut). Shortly after that it was published as a feature effect in Magic Magazine V09 N6 February 2000. (Why pay $30 for the trick when you can order a back issue for $6) Williamson then marketed the effect through Stevens Magic Emporium where it finally fizzled out and has laid dormant until now.

This "Pop Top Drop" trick is really something new to me. This is the first time I have heard of this trick. I have post my effect in various forums, and no one ever said that it is like the "Pop Top Drop" People already said it is original and they have not seen anything like that on the market.

I did a search in Stevens Magic Emporium and I could not find any trick with the name "Pop Top Drop".

The other difference here is, in the original when the spectator opened the bottle they could tell it had never really been opened by the sudden release of pressure and the very distinct sound a soda bottle makes when it is first opened.

Seems like you are saying in my version, there is no "sudden release of pressure and the very distinct sound a soda bottle makes when it is first opened." Let me tell you for my Sealed & Stuck, the audience can feel the sudden release of pressure and the distinct sound you mentioned.

Did you purchased my effect? How can you be so sure that my effect don't have the sudden release of pressure etc"?

So you are saying that "Pop Top Drop" trick is exactly the same as my effect when you did not even purchase my effect?

With Williamson's permission the instructons to this effect will become available online for free within the next few months. I will post a link when it becomes available. With your help maybe we can put cheaters like these out of business. If you know of any other blatant rip offs let us know and we'll expose them too.

Cheaters? First of all you have no proof that my effect is the exact copy of "Pop Top Drop", and you are calling people cheaters? Be very careful with that.
So now he is going to release his secrets for free? And people are complaining about some kids in youtube exposing magic secrets for free. I know this is his own secret and he can do whatever he wants with it. But please don't make that free so that anyone on the street can just learn the trick.

Where did you get the information that Adam Williamson is releasing his effect for free?

I really don't understand why he is going to release his effect for free. If it is a coin in factory sealed bottle effect, it would have great market value. He could have sold the trick instead of giving it out for free.

Plus can you give a description of the effect "Pop Top Drop"?

But there was a reason this effect didn't take off it the first place.

#1. It's very quirky to set up
#2. It's not practical at all

Again this shows that my effect is very different from "Pop Top Drop". The set up for my effect is not quirky, and it is practical.

It really seems like this "Pop Top Drop" trick don't really sound that fantastic. First of all most people never heard of it. If people have heard of this trick, they would have mentioned it when I post the video of my effect in the other forums.

If this effect is really an exact copy of my effect, people would have noticed it, just like how people on various forums noticed my effect.

My effect is a visual coin through factory sealed bottle routine. The fact that it is visual and the coin actually went through a factory sealed bottle is why my effect caught people's attention. If "Pop Top Drop" is capable of that, it would have the magic communtiy talking, and people wll remember that trick. But seems like not many people knew about this trick.

Save money. Buy the back issue of Magic Magazine V09 N6 February 2000
for only $6 compared to the $30 the other guy will charge you.

First of all my effect is only selling for USD$22.95.
I believe that the 2 effects are different, and hence the price difference.

A lot of thought and efforts are being put into this DVD. This is a coin through factory sealed bottle routine. The penetration is visual, the coin is bigger than the mouth of the bottle. The coin can even be signed. I believe the price I'm charging is very reasonable, some magicians even said the price is too low for an effect like this.

I just think people need to give credit where credit is due and stop stealing people's intellectual property and making money off of it. It is ethically wrong, not to mention illegal. Williamson may just have a lawsuit here. Hmmmm.......

You are implying that I am copying other people's effect again, when you did not even have my effect. You are making a very serious accusation here. Be careful as you might be the one getting a lawsuit.

I would not hesitate to take legal actions against people who just make accusations without any solid proof.

This is your 1st post down here, and you choose to dig up a thread that is not active for 2 weeks and then attack it.
It really seems like you have a hidden agenda here.

I suggest you do your homework. Order The back issue of Magic Magazine and see for yourself.

Am not 100% positive of your setup, but the effect is the same. I've been in magic for 20 + years and have seen just about every effect under the sun and their methods. It's not very hard to sit down and disect a video performance, and compare technique. Most principles of magic never change, and like most things out there, it's already been done whether you've heard of it or not.

I'm not saying one is better than the othetr either. I just am trying to say that you should be careful about making false claims, even if you believe them to be true, before you thouroughly research it. It will save you much grief in the long run.

Also, bottled water is not pressurized. It is not carbonated. Therefore there is no presssure release. That's just pure science. It is a fact. There is no arguing that. Also, I'm not trying to dog you here, but your video is quite poor. You cut away several times and no, I could not hear the sound it makes when opened. Go buy a bottle of soda and a bottle of water. Open them one after the other and hear and feel the difference. Again this is SCIENCE.

Stevens does not sell the effect anymore. The effect was issued as a limited run of 30. It sold out in a month and is no longer available. (List price: $20.00) (instructions and the tool required to make preperations.)

The main point here is giving credit where credit is due. I'm sure Williamson wouldn't want any of your money. But he does deserve your respect.

Also, what may not be quirky to you may be so to others. Especially more experienced performers who like purity, and want to concentrate on performance as opposed to hoping they set it up right and praying that it will work...

I am not trying to attack you. I just want people to do their homework before they make claims they cannot prove.

We know for sure we can prove this. The biggest proof would be that the effect appeared in printed form about 6 years prior to your release, and is still available today through Magic Magazine. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself. Same goes for the issue of "Linking Ring" (Do you even know what that is I wonder) Also the original print documents are available along with the computer files that can prove a creation date and a video with a date and time stamp.

You say nobody's ever heard of it? Well my guess is that most of these people here are just noobs who think that even the ellusionist stuff is original. That guy is a cheat too. If you have been in this business as long as I have you would know that. Ellusionist is a prime example of somebody stealing effects out of books and selling the secret as their own. Ask any reputible magician or dealer with no affiliations and they'll tell you the same. It's one thing for somebody to take an old effect and put a new spin on it and call it something new, but at least have the decency to make a reference to the old. Even if it didn't actually inspire the effect. Someone at some point will notice and your reputation will surely suffer.

Again, do your homework before you make claims. I know it's alot of work, but if you're serious about this thing, it shouln't be that big a deal.
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here's the desription of the effect:

Performer displays several clear bottles of soda and asks the spectator to choose one. Free choice, no force. The label is removed. A coin is borrowed. The coin then visually and audibly penetrates the bottle and can be seen to sinking to the bottom of the bottle. The bottle is then handed out immediately for examination and opened by the spectator who can feel the pressure being released as well as can hear the sound. The spectator keeps this as a souvenier.
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As soon as you decided to make your effect available, you started playing with the big boys. Better make sure you've got your stuff together.

About releasing it for free... Williamson is a close friend of mine (he is no longer performing, but still lurks in the shadows of the magic community) he has told me he has no desire to release any old effects or new creations for that matter. He has also said he would rather give a secret away for free to make it harder on those trying to turn a profit at his expense. He never released this effect in the hope of being famous or making big money. Thats why he virtually gave it away to the magic community by having it published in a world wide publication. He wanted to give something back to art that he loves so much.

By the way, why should "I be very careful" about anything I say? I live in a free country and can say anything I damn well please. You want to make a legal issue out if it? I dare you to bring it on. My lawyers could use a five minute break. Please. I have my proof. Where is yours?

Also, bottled water is not pressurized. It is not carbonated. Therefore there is no presssure release.

Again this shows that you have no idea what my effect is.
My effect uses a clear soda bottle, not a bottle of water. The bottle I used in my demo video is the bottle for sprite. The sound of the release of pressure cannot be heard that clearly on the video. For a live performances, the audience can clearly feel the sudden release of pressure.

Go buy a bottle of soda and a bottle of water. Open them one after the other and hear and feel the difference. Again this is SCIENCE.

Go get my product, and the magic magazine. Look through both of them and see the differences.
The thing you are doing here is not pure science. You have to get my product, not to just make observations from my demo video. See you don't even know that I'm using a bottle of soda here.

Again this is to make sure that both products are different.

The main point here is giving credit where credit is due. I'm sure Williamson wouldn't want any of your money. But he does deserve your respect.

I'll check again if part of my effect uses ideas that were published 6 years ago. Credits will be given if I'm indeed using the same methods.

We know for sure we can prove this. The biggest proof would be that the effect appeared in printed form about 6 years prior to your release, and is still available today through Magic Magazine. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself. Same goes for the issue of "Linking Ring" (Do you even know what that is I wonder) Also the original print documents are available along with the computer files that can prove a creation date and a video with a date and time stamp.

No, you don't understand. I knew that was printed 6 years ago. But the problem is you are not 100% sure that my effect is the same effect as "Pop Top Drop".

You say nobody's ever heard of it? Well my guess is that most of these people here are just noobs who think that even the ellusionist stuff is original. That guy is a cheat too. If you have been in this business as long as I have you would know that. Ellusionist is a prime example of somebody stealing effects out of books and selling the secret as their own. Ask any reputible magician or dealer with no affiliations and they'll tell you the same. It's one thing for somebody to take an old effect and put a new spin on it and call it something new, but at least have the decency to make a reference to the old.

Btw, the ellusionist is coming out with their own coin in factory sealed bottle too. You might want to contact them about your concerns as well.

Again, do your homework before you make claims. I know it's alot of work, but if you're serious about this thing, it shouln't be that big a deal.

I have already done my homework. And I have posted my video demo on various magic forums and people are saying it is original. The people saying it are not just noobs. Some of them have been in magic for almost 20 years?

You should have come to me earlier.

here's the desription of the effect:

Performer displays several clear bottles of soda and asks the spectator to choose one. Free choice, no force. The label is removed. A coin is borrowed. The coin then visually and audibly penetrates the bottle and can be seen to sinking to the bottom of the bottle. The bottle is then handed out immediately for examination and opened by the spectator who can feel the pressure being released as well as can hear the sound. The spectator keeps this as a souvenier.

After reading this, I'm very positive that Sealed & Stuck is different from "Pop Top Drop"

I'll pm you again to resolve the issue. If I need to give credit to Adam I will. =)

Also, what may not be quirky to you may be so to others. Especially more experienced performers who like purity, and want to concentrate on performance as opposed to hoping they set it up right and praying that it will work...

For my effect, you don't have to pray for it to work. The set up is solid, not quirky. Do you really know the method to my effect or are you just guessing how it was done. Let me tell you for my effect the set up is easy and it is 100% safe.

About releasing it for free... Williamson is a close friend of mine (he is no longer performing, but still lurks in the shadows of the magic community) he has told me he has no desire to release any old effects or new creations for that matter. He has also said he would rather give a secret away for free to make it harder on those trying to turn a profit at his expense. He never released this effect in the hope of being famous or making big money. Thats why he virtually gave it away to the magic community by having it published in a world wide publication. He wanted to give something back to art that he loves so much.

So he is releasing it for free because "He wanted to give something back to art that he loves so much" or "to make it harder on those trying to turn a profit at his expense."

Please, don't release a magic secret for free. If you want to make it harder on those coin through factory sealed bottle on the market( my effect is not the only factory sealed bottle effect on the market) you can just ask people to order the magic magazine.

If you just give out the secret for free, it is only hurting the magic community. From your description "Pop Top Drop" sounds like a great trick, don't give it out for free so that every kid on the block can perform it. If you really love the art, if you really have pride in your effect, don't just give out the secret for free.

By the way, why should "I be very careful" about anything I say? I live in a free country and can say anything I damn well please. You want to make a legal issue out if it? I dare you to bring it on. My lawyers could use a five minute break. Please. I have my proof. Where is yours?

No, you don't have the secrets to my effect, henc you don't have any proof to say that my effect is the same as "Pop Top Drop"

I will pm you and I hope we can resolve this asap.



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Also, bottled water is not pressurized. It is not carbonated. Therefore there is no presssure release.

Again this shows that you have no idea what my effect is.
My effect uses a clear soda bottle, not a bottle of water. The bottle I used in my demo video is the bottle for sprite. The sound of the release of pressure cannot be heard that clearly on the video. For a live performances, the audience can clearly feel the sudden release of pressure.

Go buy a bottle of soda and a bottle of water. Open them one after the other and hear and feel the difference. Again this is SCIENCE.

Go get my product and the magic magazine. Look through both of them and see the differences.
The thing you are doing here is not pure science. You have to get my product, not to just make observations from my demo video. See you don't even know that I'm using a bottle of soda here.

Again this is to make sure that both products are different.

The main point here is giving credit where credit is due. I'm sure Williamson wouldn't want any of your money. But he does deserve your respect.

I'll check again if part of my effect uses ideas that were published 6 years ago. Credits will be given if I'm indeed using the same methods.

We know for sure we can prove this. The biggest proof would be that the effect appeared in printed form about 6 years prior to your release, and is still available today through Magic Magazine. Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself. Same goes for the issue of "Linking Ring" (Do you even know what that is I wonder) Also the original print documents are available along with the computer files that can prove a creation date and a video with a date and time stamp.

No, you don't understand. I knew that was printed 6 years ago. But the problem is you are not 100% sure that my effect is the same effect as "Pop Top Drop".

You say nobody's ever heard of it? Well my guess is that most of these people here are just noobs who think that even the ellusionist stuff is original. That guy is a cheat too. If you have been in this business as long as I have you would know that. Ellusionist is a prime example of somebody stealing effects out of books and selling the secret as their own. Ask any reputible magician or dealer with no affiliations and they'll tell you the same. It's one thing for somebody to take an old effect and put a new spin on it and call it something new, but at least have the decency to make a reference to the old.

Btw, the ellusionist is coming out with their own coin in factory sealed bottle too. You might want to contact them about your concerns as well.

Again, do your homework before you make claims. I know it's alot of work, but if you're serious about this thing, it shouln't be that big a deal.

I have already done my homework. And I have posted my video demo on various magic forums and people are saying it is original. The people saying it are not just noobs. Some of them have been in magic for almost 20 years?

You should have come to me earlier.

here's the desription of the effect:

Performer displays several clear bottles of soda and asks the spectator to choose one. Free choice, no force. The label is removed. A coin is borrowed. The coin then visually and audibly penetrates the bottle and can be seen to sinking to the bottom of the bottle. The bottle is then handed out immediately for examination and opened by the spectator who can feel the pressure being released as well as can hear the sound. The spectator keeps this as a souvenier.

After reading this, I'm very positive that Sealed & Stuck is different from "Pop Top Drop"

I'll pm you again to resolve the issue. If I need to give credit to Adam I will. =)

Also, what may not be quirky to you may be so to others. Especially more experienced performers who like purity, and want to concentrate on performance as opposed to hoping they set it up right and praying that it will work...

For my effect, you don't have to pray for it to work. The set up is solid, not quirky. Do you really know the method to my effect or are you just guessing how it was done. Let me tell you for my effect the set up is easy and it is 100% safe.

About releasing it for free... Williamson is a close friend of mine (he is no longer performing, but still lurks in the shadows of the magic community) he has told me he has no desire to release any old effects or new creations for that matter. He has also said he would rather give a secret away for free to make it harder on those trying to turn a profit at his expense. He never released this effect in the hope of being famous or making big money. Thats why he virtually gave it away to the magic community by having it published in a world wide publication. He wanted to give something back to art that he loves so much.

So he is releasing it for free because "He wanted to give something back to art that he loves so much" or "to make it harder on those trying to turn a profit at his expense"?

Please, don't release a magic secret for free. If you want to make it harder on those coin through factory sealed bottle on the market( my effect is not the only factory sealed bottle effect on the market) you can just ask people to order the magic magazine.

If you just give out the secret for free, it is only hurting the magic community. From your description "Pop Top Drop" sounds like a great trick, don't give it out for free so that every kid on the block can perform it. If you really love the art, if you really have pride in your effect, don't just give out the secret for free.

By the way, why should "I be very careful" about anything I say? I live in a free country and can say anything I damn well please. You want to make a legal issue out if it? I dare you to bring it on. My lawyers could use a five minute break. Please. I have my proof. Where is yours?

No, you don't have the secrets to my effect, hence you don't have any proof to say that my effect is the same as "Pop Top Drop"

I will pm you and I hope we can resolve this asap.

I didn't realize that you were using a soda bottle. I appologize for my mistake.

So I would think we are in agreement though that these effects are similar. They both use unoppened soda bottles. They both involve coins visually penetrating the unopened bottle. They both are examinable and can be left with the spectator. Yes? That is the jist of the "effect"

I think my main issue here is the "original" factor. I would have no problems if you billed it as an "original method" or something like that. But "original effect" is making a very bold statement. I don't agree with it. But in America it's ok to dissagree with me. That's your right.

I'm really not trying to come down hard on you. These effects are very similar, but how similar we cannot be sure i guess. I guess there's no point in continuing to argue.

I will make mention though: Can you really call it an "original effect" if there are several other versions floating around? (ellusionists, yours, adam's, and alex ward's)

I guess the answer would be: who created the "effect" first?

Again I say "effect" not "method". I do believe however that the very first use of this "effect" commercially, and i say "effect" not "technique", was by Adam. In everything I could find his version was the earliest mention. I'm sure that somewhere somebody did this before him. But his seeems to be the only documented version. Now your "technique" may very well be different. Which it probably is. In which case "original method" is more appropriate.

Maybe I'll buy yours for grins and see for myself.

And yes, I have heard about the ellusionist version and will be keeping my eye on them. They are the biggest example of theft in magic history. I will give them this though. They do great marketing. It's very interesting to see, even some seasoned magicians, who fall for what they do.

example: I knew a guy who went on and on about this trick they sold. He was so pumped and he wanted to buy it. The next week he bought it. When he called me I asked him about it. He was so pi**ed. Turns out he bought something that he already knew how to do. lol. It was a big letdown for him. Shouldn't you feel excited after you learn something new? Shouldn't you feel good about your purchase?

Ok, now this guy isn't the sharpest in the toolshed, but come on. A company that can make you want to buy something you already have. Pretty crafty. I can see both sides of this argument. From their perspective they would say: even though he might have known the method we were still able to fool him and make him want to own it. For the money we essentially showed him a new way to present the effect. And they would be right.

I could go on. and on. and on.......but i won't lol

we don't have to argue about this further. I'm sure we both could argue for days. I will just say that you know in your heart if something is right or not. If it is, more power to you.

Funny thing is: I mentioned this to Adam today and he said:

"Really? That's hillarious. Who gives a s***? I'm way over coins in bottles. Leave the poor kid alone and let him have some fun"

Go figure. lol.

I guess I care more about this than he does.

He also mentioned that he's developed a way to make your shadow appear to be a seperate entity making movements on it's own on a bright sunny day and do it surrounded. Hmmmm. I don't know if I believe it.

Well, I'll say it again:

If this is 100% original "technique", congrats, good luck and I appologize. No hard feelings. If not, may you burn in the hell of a thousand Sanjaya's.
Just kidding.

lol.

Here are some of the other reviews and comments of Sealed & Stuck.


"I recently got sealed n stuck dvd and in my (opinion) its a really great effect,I'm not knocking the other ctb effects but this is good i stood in front of a mirror to see how it looks and it is fantastic!"

KEVIN FLEETWOOD
sapulpa, United States


"I'm pretty sure that Ace's demo video I just seen, is a lot better than the origional demo he put up on the Cafe. And guaranteed, I'll be bringing it in to my shop once it hits distributors. Or directly from him if need be.

There are tons out there already, and probably tons more coming but nothing revolutionary like Ace's"

Wayno
Canada


"I think Sealed and Stuck is a very visual and baffeling effect. A real magician fooler. It does require good slieght of hand and audience management skills. This is not a negative. In the right setting, the extra effort, can fool anyone."

JPK
Plainfield/NJ/USA


" very visual penetration

combinable with a signed coin

manageable sleights and timing

no cons that i can think of

I'm relatively new to coin through bottle effects but to me it has great effects which are definitely reputation builders."

Ian
Singapore

"i have sealed n stuck and it is a great trick,nothing like abyss or labelled.i had abyss and got rid of it the set-up was too complicated and did not work sometimes,sealed n stuck is better if you don't have it get it you won't be disappointed in my opinion its better than what i have seen so far."

xfile


"Fantastic! By far one of the most visual coin through bottles I've ever come across, and trust me, I've come across a LOT!"

John
United States
Leesburg

Why's everyone so irate? The poor lad has an idea and goes to the effort of putting together a product only to be shot down by a bunch of pedants. People have ideas, sometimes different people have the same idea about something similar at the same time, just because one of them happens to have better industry connections than the other is neither here nor there.

The CIB plot is pretty common in magic and and seems to be very popular amongst magicians, it's almost inevitable that at some point there will be some similar effects released. Frankly I reckon the good ol' folding coin 'original' is still up there with the best or failing that the striking vanish variation is pretty good. Not to demean anyone's creativity here, that's just the way I happen to feel.

bronz wrote:Why's everyone so irate? The poor lad has an idea and goes to the effort of putting together a product only to be shot down by a bunch of pedants. People have ideas, sometimes different people have the same idea about something similar at the same time, just because one of them happens to have better industry connections than the other is neither here nor there.

The CIB plot is pretty common in magic and and seems to be very popular amongst magicians, it's almost inevitable that at some point there will be some similar effects released. Frankly I reckon the good ol' folding coin 'original' is still up there with the best or failing that the striking vanish variation is pretty good. Not to demean anyone's creativity here, that's just the way I happen to feel.

Thanks! =)

You are right, sometimes 2 magicians can have the same idea.

For example the bonus version of Impervious uses the same method as the impromptu version of my effect Sealed & Stuck.

Although my CTB was released first, I think the Impervious team discovered the method on their own.If I'm not wrong Chris's bonus handling of Impervious was inspired by Jeremy's handling. Hence it is likely that the method was discovered by them sometime this year when they met and see each other's effect.

From the reviews the 3rd method of Impervious seems to be the best effect in Impervious. People are saying it is their favourite effect in Impervious. I'm glad that fellow magicians like the method that I discovered.

Plus, their 3rd method is only similar to the impromptu version of my effect Sealed & Stuck.

The main effect of Sealed & Stuck (the one on the demo video) uses a very different method from the impromptu version. And in my opinion, Sealed & Stuck is far stronger than the impromptu version.

The other 3 versions of Sealed & Stuck and the other 2 version of Impervious look totally different and used different methods.


So far the reviews of Sealed & Stuck are great. That means alot to me as I spent alot of time and effort on these CTBs. After reading the reviews, I feel that all the hard work was worth it.

I am certainly looking forward to the release of "Factory Sealed" also there is another CTB coming out called "Bullet". Both have my attention.

Ace, I just watched your demo not to long ago and must say that it has intrigued me, but I do wish that the video was a bit better quality. It is a bit hard for me to follow the performance. All the best to you.

Take care

The whole performance is only 10 seconds. I believe you can see how the coin melts through the bottle?

As you can see although the performance is only a few seconds, the magic goes on for another 10mins. When they discovered that the bottle is factory sealed and the coin is bigger than the neck of the bottle, they will go nuts. You will love the expressions on their faces when they examined the bottle.

does sealed and stuck consist of any holes in the bottle???



nickmagic