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Jjtee wrote: My knowledge of underground magic is slim (as I cannot see much in the dark),

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It's the fact that some of the tricks look and feel exactly the same as on E.

Witness (card, sandwich bag), reminds me of indecent.

TNR - Torn and Restored (tear a card, restore it, visually), a lot like Daniel Garcia's Torn. I thought the whole point is to restore the spec's card and show that it was their card, not changing it and arousing suspicion. Weird.

Control - stopping your own pulse. I remember reading about this trick years ago. It was in a very amateur "magic" book and T11 are doing exactly what E are doing - passing off old stuff as "brand-new, ground-breaking" effects.

I do like most of the guys there though, DnD Buck/WHouchin/LeeAsher and the 1 on 1 section is a nice way to learn slights.

I would still rather get RRTCM over everything there.

The pulse stop has a different method than the one you probably read about. The **** under *** method is old, and isn't impromptu. Control is.

Personally, a mixture of techniques from the essay in the New Invocation and Luke Jermay's technique is the best.

Believe it or not, both my friend (who does magic) and I discovered the solution to Control after watching Stigmata about 2 years ago. We each came up with the idea independent of each other, I just didn't know that we were right until Control came out.

Because of that, I'm not feeling too comfortable with Houchin's method.

seige wrote:It actually LOOKS like Ellusionist, FEELS like Ellusionist, and features people who've WORKED with Ellusionist.

Perhaps it's a knife in the back?

You took the words right out of my mouth, its an axe in the back