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krisnevling@hotmail.com wrote:As to the poster who asked if you can just rip the pieces up and hand them out instead of vanishing them. Yes you can and I have done this on many occasions usually saying something like,"Now if you can put these back together I will tell you how I did it."

In my opinion - this would be a better end to the routine, instead of vanishing the card. It just seems too "suss" when you vanish it - it's as if you're disposing of the evidence.
I like the patter by the way - I much prefer this method over the original one where you vanish the card .

Hmm, picked this up yesterday out of curiosity and I really don't know where I sit with it to be honest.

First, it's a great routine and it really is quite easy to do. The tearing looks first class and the teaching is good, the performance shown to a spectator in particular shows how effective this can be with the right patter and made me feel a lot more comfortable with the routine. In terms of a working environment this is probably the most practical handling of the plot I've seen, virtually no angle worries and you effectively show both sides of the card at all point during the restoration.

On the negative side, there was something I couldn't quite put my finger on with the restoration sequence that bothered me. Then I realised that it was due to the fact that in most t+r effects you take one separate piece, hold it against another and they magically fuse. With this the restorations are all a little bit quick, as if you're covering what's going on with speed. Once I'd run it past my girlfriend however she liked the restoration phase, so that was good.

Unfortunately the deal breaker for me was the ending. Because you can't give away a fully restored card it kind of falls down as a t+r effect. In the context of the patter given, ie. that you're showing more than the illusion of folding and tearing, the vanish at the end is consistent and it's a strong effect. As a t+r the final piece is the clincher, I showed Torn to my housemate immediately after this as a comparison and overall he preferred Torn, so make of that what you will. Perhaps it would be nice to force a card then do the routine then vanish it with the illusion patter and finally show that the card never left the deck at all. Hmm, might try that actually.

Overall this is worth the money and the thinking and teaching are first class. Just don't expect a 'proper' torn and restored card trick.

I have to say I LOVE reinCARDnation. Well done Nevling! I purchased it from Rob Stiff at Magic Makers, who is selling a fair few on behalf of Kris I believe. After seeing it and learning to perform it (from VERY good dvd instructions) I had to start selling it on my online shop. I purchased one hundred and they have been selling very well, with good reviews from my customers.

Basically, this trick comes highly recommended! I try to avoid pushing my online magic shop in these forums, but I really would recommend buying it, from wherever you can get hold of one. I have been using it in my close-up act, and it has gone down an absolute treat.. and it is DEFINITELY BETTER than TORN (which is also very good).

sounds like advertising spam to me, mostly just you trying to sell your stock.

I've looked at this demo video many times and even seen a couple youn00bers perform it. I really wanted to like this, but as the previous reviewer stated, there is something just not right about the restoration parts of it.

TORN is much better because it is a much more visual restoration and there aren't as many funny quick "hidden" moves. and it's a torn and restored effect, not just a torn effect!!! haha

I can see your point of view, seems quite understandable and sensible (until the haha bit at the end). It's not just me trying to sell my stock, I sell plenty of items I would never recommend like I do with reinCARDnation. I used to sell torn but sales died, which proves reinCARDnation is the current favourite. Surely it's not advertising spam if I don't feature a link or even mention my website??

Anyway, it is totally a personal opinion, TORN is excellent, and I do perform it occasionally. I just personally prefer reinCARDnation, mainly because it is more visual, and it is far more convincing to watch. I did however find it more difficult to master, but practice makes perfect, as I am sure you will agree!

good point, you're not exactly trying to push the sales by your store, but rather just excited about the product. fair enough. I was just a little tickled by your "it is DEFINITELY BETTER than TORN" when really the disadvantage that TORN has at this point, is that it's older so yeah not going to sell as well as the "latest greatest new kid on the block".

But I still think that torn is more visual than this one as a previous poster has mentioned, because you can "restore" the first two pieces in full view, whereas the reinCARDnation demo clips and youtube clips I've watched all have these cover-up moves and quick spin-arounds ...

now, my opinion isn't going to be nearly that of a layman, I'm sure that reinCARDnation will go over well with the average spec.

however the few caveats that I have with it could be overcome if it was a bit easier to nail every time... but it sounds from your description like it's actually a bit more difficult to master! of course anythings going to be difficult to really master but as a new guy to magic i may look at this one again in 6 months or so. cheers

Once again thanks for all the great comments. I really want to stress the fact that this is a WORKER. It's the most practical torn and restored card effect out there. Sure others may have more visual restorations but there are a few alternate handlings on the DVD that are more visual but require more practice so the demo clips on the internet are of the basic handling. I have some other handlings that don't appear on the DVD because as of now I still don't have them mastered but believe me they are insanely visual. I perform magic on a daily basis for real people and have tried all types of T&R effects. This is the only one I do now and believe me it kills.

Just wanna thank Kris for creating an amazing effect.

Love it, its probably because I'm awful at performing torn.