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crozboz wrote:Weeeell...no.

But the climax usually happens when you turn it over by picking it up.

The rest of the deck can be examined but you pretty much have to put the named card back into your pocket or deck, which is a shame, as I think something like that would be an excellent souvenir - (there is a 52 to 1 chance that they could examine it)

So, It's not clean then.
Clean, would be your able to give the card away.
also, if you cant use people called jesus, better not try doing teh trick south of the border, where Jesus is a very popular name.

but there again, going by your sugested limitations, it doesnt sound like you can perform this in any non english speaking country.

Although ther card cannot be examined, the whole effect is very visually clean. It's virtually sleight free and everything seems to fair... although I do wish spectators could take the name card home. They have never asked as of yet.

If something of this nature cant be examined, thats definatly not a clean ending Michael.
Im curious, how many times has this been performed in front to a live lay audience?
Because usualy if a spectator signs something, they expect to keep it.

Literally hundreds of times, I take it with me everywhere. It kills!

I didn't mean that you end clean, I just mean the overall handling appears to be extremely clean. It's virtually sleight-free and I've designed the method in such a way that it allows for an easy breezy performance.

oh come on Michael.
every magic effect invented should be described by teh words...." the overall handling appears to be extremely clean "

appears? Either it is, or it isnt. if i read, as i did here

the overall handling appears to be extremely clean

My first thought would be, it involves knuckle busting sleights, but lots of in built misdrection.

and you do say its virtualy sleight free.

if you eat lots of virtualy fat free youghurt, you still get fat.

I dont mean to have a go but you and your palls, are selling this effect in a very confusing way.

And be honest, you do have a bit of a history when it comes to confusing sales pitches Michael.

I'm not trying to make a sales pitch... I'm not even marketing this effect.

Here's a straightforward description.

I've developed a system that allows for very fair handling, based partially on an idea involving mnemonics... I've used this in walkaround, at school, and at gigs. Sleights do not get more difficult than cutting the deck. No, you do not end clean, but you leave spectators with something they will NEVER forget. I showed this to a group of people at the beginning of this year and 9 months later they are still talking about it. In fact, every day of this past week at my school, one girl asks me if I "brought the name deck".

It's a worker, I'm sure those who know the method can agree. It's also a very personal and powerful effect.

Michael Kras wrote:I'm not trying to make a sales pitch... I'm not even marketing this effect.

If this effect is not for sale may I respectfully suggest that this thread is moved to a different area of the site. Maybe the miscellaneous section, or somewhere in the restricted area.

I read reviews because I might be interested in purchasing the effect. It seems a bit pointless having this thread here if the effect is not for sale. No disrespect to Mr Kras, or Mr Crosbie, intended.

Best wishes
Gary

I'm not saying it will never be sold, just not anytime too soon.

Michael Kras wrote:I'm not saying it will never be sold, just not anytime too soon.

Well maybe we could have a review in the review section when it is for sale. To be honest, I read reviews of effects I can purchase. If The Destiny Effect is not for sale then you've just wasted my time. What's the point of reading a review of an effect that is not for sale? Why would I want to do that?

I don't wish to be rude, but I still think this thread should be moved.

In all fairness, Michael didn't post the review and, as there were no details of price or availibility, perhaps it could have been in Micellaneous...so here it is!!

Totally fine, thank you!

I'm not sure why people are chewing Michael out over this.

I agree that it's a shame that the card cannot be given away, but lots of performers get people to sign cards for ACR, but keep it in the deck afterwards (at least, so they have claimed online). In this case, the significance of the name is even more important, but just about every trick has some kind of compromise. If it didn't it would be real magic!

Part-Timer wrote:I'm not sure why people are chewing Michael out over this.

Me neither. As you say, all tricks have their compromises. Hats off to the lad for continuing to be creative and inspired.

I really do like the sound of this effect. I've had a (long) think about it and what it appears from what you guys are saying, is that you can only perform this trick to someone that has the same name as one of the pre-arranged 52 common names you have 'prepared'. If any of that is exposure then please delte but i doubt it is.

Having said that, i've thought about it and i have a way of performing the effect with anybody with any name (even Jesus). I don't know how this holds to your effect Michael but if you want to bounce ideas around or if anyone else does, I'm more than happy too.

Hello,

Thank you for your input! The Destiny effect can only be done with one of the 52 names in your deck. However, I detail the specifics of how to set up your deck so you will be able to perform this for someone in almost any group you may perform for. It's not exposure at all to say so... if you come across a situation where their name isn't in the Destiny Deck, obviously do not do the effect. I always keep the deck on me and if my spectator has a name in my deck (which is very common), then I will do it, typically as a closer because it's honestly one of the strongest effects in my repertoire and it's a great, memorable way to end on a high note.