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Hey yall! i am a new member here and am hoping you ALL like magic. see you on the boards soon. so seeing your replies about chriss angel being bad, i may want to consider PROVING YOU WRONG. I hop to be a great addition to the forums, and ask that you have fun while doning magic. AND THTAS A RULE! if you DONT have fun with magic, it wasnt meant fro you. I am a skilled hobbiest, and i live in tennessee.

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I'm not sure if you've noticed, Chriss Angel is not a particularly good magician.

Wild Card wrote:I'm not sure if you've noticed, Chriss Angel is not a particularly good magician.

I'm really do NOT agree!

webmaster430 wrote:Hey yall! i am a new member here and am hoping you ALL like magic. see you on the boards soon.

webmaster430

Welcome.

Bobby_Cat, what do you think makes a good magician then?

Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

Wild Card wrote:Bobby_Cat, what do you think makes a good magician then?

Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

Entertainment.

Wild Card wrote:Bobby_Cat, what do you think makes a good magician then?

Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

Entertainment.

Wild Card wrote:Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

That's the popular myth, but not the reality. CA obviously uses stooges, and creative editing for TV... but not always. He is a skillful magician with great creative flair and innovative presentation. He definately entertains.

B0bbY_CaT wrote:

Wild Card wrote:Bobby_Cat, what do you think makes a good magician then?

Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

Entertainment.

Wild Card wrote:Ridiculous amounts of camera cuts and editing? Not to mention stooges and entirely stooged audiences?

That's the popular myth, but not the reality. CA obviously uses stooges, and creative editing for TV... but not always. He is a skillful magician with great creative flair and innovative presentation. He definately entertains.

A popular myth? It doesn't take a magician to see through Chriss Angel. It's embarassing at times how ridiculous some of his effects are. With the BLATENT use of stooges and camera editing I think the show's aimed at kids who believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden. I couldn't believe some of the things I saw on mind freak. I was laughing at some effects at how terrible they were.

Anyone who disagrees should watch -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf4EaDtbBEk

Actually, I find CA rather entertaining which is the point of what he does.

Whether you like him as a person or not is another matter and all of the TV magicians have their critics but despite this, TV would be much the worse without them!

Put it into perspective - the majority of thise who he performs to are non-magicians who won't know about or spot any technical exposures that he may happen to make.

Yes he uses stooges, yes he exploits camera angles and editing but if you don't expect that on mainstream TV these days then perhaps you're a bit naive. Some of the great names in magic have done the same or similar in their time and scaled down it's a bit like saying that you shouldn't do an ambitious card routine using a DL because it's cheating.

Oh - and welcome to TM

Well then Dat, I would say he is a good tv magician/entertainer. In my eyes the magic is what you really see, live. I doubt a Chriss Angel live show would be amazingly magical.

I find him to be the biggest insult to the whole of magic... what little good he did for it a few years ago has long since been cancelled out via his arrogance, dishonesty and as Penn & Teller would say "BULL SH**!"

Oh, I agree sooo much with Wild Card and Craig Browning!
Christopher Nicholas Sarantakos aka. Chriss Angel is rubbish magician, at the most a good TV entertainer and I'm also sure that he would not last long on stage.

I find him to be the biggest insult to the whole of magic

Live magic is REAL magic for me. He couldn't and won't ever perform anything spectacular live.

Welcome to TM.

For me I dislike CA as a magician, he just doesen't excite me the way other magicians do but saying that I have never had Criss perform directly for me so I can't necesarily say he is a bad magician I can just say he doesen't appeal to me personally.

Wild Card wrote:

I find him to be the biggest insult to the whole of magic

Live magic is REAL magic for me. He couldn't and won't ever perform anything spectacular live.

That's because people can see the helicopter picking him up when it's a live show

Wild Card wrote:Well then Dat, I would say he is a good tv magician/entertainer. In my eyes the magic is what you really see, live. I doubt a Chriss Angel live show would be amazingly magical.

Based on this comment, I'm assuming therefore you haven't seen one. Hard to judge therefore...

Dat, I think your comments sum it up best.