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Buy it. Definitely. I'm on my second In A Flash Deck (both paid for, I hasten to add). I must say though that the difference in card stock has never been noticed by a spectator. Now I'm not a working pro or anything, but I've shown this trick to a lot of people - friends and strangers.

I wouldn't worry about making your own - buy the original and let the inventor reap the rewards for inventing.

I've been making my own " In a Flash" decks ever since I bought the first one and didn't like the gaffs at all....so far I've made about 3 and they all work great, I do a variation where it burns through the card box as well...I must say it is a strong e ffect.

If anyone is interested in this trick, but doesnt have the money or has a problem with the bought gimmmicked, or just likes DIY and they wish to make their own instead of purchaseing it-
I finished making my In A Flash deck. However, because this is the review forum, I’m going to post a thread in the Tips forum discussing how it went, how i did it, advice, troubles i came across, and how i fixed them...etc So If you are interested, check it out!
If you are lazy or under 18 (the process involved using a flame), just buy it because it is an excellent trick that you shouldnt miss out on..(actually, i guess because the trick itself involves using a flame...'technically' under 18 shouldn't even be buying it in the first place~ =X)

Anyhow my overall review for In A Flash - (I talked a bunch but never reviewed)
Difficulty – about a 3 (some sleights used). I don’t think this should be your first trick or anything, but if you have any experience and practice a bit (as you do with all tricks anyhow), you should catch on in no time.
Over all - 8/10 (great trick, unique idea, incorporates coins, cards, and flash paper into one trick, but -2 because i dont like the deck because it's not convincing enough to me.)
In A Flash with homemade deck - 10/10 (everything said above but no -2 because the problem is fixed when you make your own) Check out the Tips&Support thread later tonight if you want some directions and details....

Magic Mark wrote:It shouldnt make too much difference, i made 2 of my own, and yes, the decks are of different textures......Ive performed at lots of times, and also, the fact that a coin has travelled through the pack in a blaze of fire is amazing, it kills any suspition about the deck.

You are right...and it is alot like a TT...painfully obvious to those in the know, but the stunning nature of the effect makes specs miss the obvious!

krazy ace wrote:I'm sorry to say but i think it not worth that much

once you buy it and see the gimick you will say

WHAT HOW EASY IS THAT

i figured out how it was done by watching it at davenports.

again it is one of the trick that look good but you will never preform


my advice is see the demo first

Doesn't this really sum up any effect.....I have never bought something that I haven't thought....hmm...with some thought I could have made this....that doesn't mean that the effect itself isn't good. In fact, you could possibly argue that the simplier the working once you purchase it, the better the effect....if it fooled you, it will certainly fool the layperson

krazy ace wrote:people love it but i ask you how often have you prefromed it to people in the public?

On my third deck.....worn two others out already with bent cards, scorch marks from the flash paper, etc.....and people always ask to keep one of the hole cards as a souvenier!

LazyKat420 wrote:Check out the Tips&Support thread later tonight if you want some directions and details....

Have you even read the forum rules?

Cardza wrote:

LazyKat420 wrote:Check out the Tips&Support thread later tonight if you want some directions and details....

Have you even read the forum rules?

Ummmmm...(?) Yea, actually I have. I dont know if you noticed, but Im not some 12 year old that joinged today, writing my first post. Ive been reading these forums for years....

Have you even read my post? Because I dont really remember announcing that I would post how to do the trick. I do remember saying i'd post later, telling how i made my own deck for the trick, which everyone knows is just a deck with a hole burnt half way through it. (Not too much of a secret, huh?)

If you read the rules so often, where does it say that I cant share how I made something? I know it's not exposure because it's not telling how to do the trick and it's not a secret because its directions that I made it up, and that also means it couldn't be copywrite infrinemint either.... That's because its just a harmless tip (hence why it's going to be posted in the "TIPS&support" form) . Plus from what i've seen, it's very common on this board.
Just within this past 2 weeks, Ive been given directions on how to make hard wax into soft, told how to split cards, and how to make gimmicks, and swamis, instructions on what to use to shim things and how to do it, how to turn craftstore string into IT, and even how to make a rig that grounds electric touch better given with pictures of the rig.

No, the fact is most magicians know how this is done; in posting how to make the deck you are essentially encouraging them not to buy it and to make it themselves (as you yourself have done):

If anyone is interested in this trick, but doesnt have the money or has a problem with the bought gimmmicked, or just likes DIY and they wish to make their own instead of purchaseing it-

If you have been 'reading this forum for years' then you should know that TM is a forum which supports creators, not rips them off (and before you ask, yes, not buying the effect, making it yourself and then telling others how to do it - which would, as a necessary part of that - essentially tip the method anyway - is ripping off the creator).

Just within this past 2 weeks, Ive been given directions on how to make hard wax into soft, told how to split cards, and how to make gimmicks, and swamis, instructions on what to use to shim things and how to do it, how to turn craftstore string into IT, and even how to make a rig that grounds electric touch better given with pictures of the rig.

Yes, but these things are essentially public domain - no-one owns the rights to wax, or IT, or swamis or shims - In A Flash on the other hand is a marketed effect, not a public domain accessory. In the case of ET it's not something you're going to go out and make yourself is it?

Fact of the matter is, there have been people on here who didn't know what the gimmick was, so yes, it is something of a secret and what it all boils down to is your intent - posting it so others don't have to buy it (and people who have paid for the right to use it have posted that they have had no problems making up other decks up themselves).

Zack wrote:I wouldn't worry about making your own - buy the original and let the inventor reap the rewards for inventing.

Good points cardza.........their is a difference between supplies and effects.......and saying things like....IT, ITR, Wax, etc.....doesn't give away anything, but saying "how to cut the holes in your own deck"....certainly gives away an integral part of the working.........while true that most of the card workers on the board would know there was a hole (whether they own the deck or not).....it is the non-magician lurking on our forum that doesn't need to know about it.......and in many cases, when something is considered to be widley known......many of us will put, "I make my own gimmick"...or "make my own deck".....or when "creating the gaff"....that way those that know realize the exact nature, those that don't....DON'T....so even if it is a grey area (which believe me when I say I don't think it is in the case)....have the decency to keep the post vague!

Hi there,

Yep I too could easily make one of these myself - but I'm not going to. If I decide to perform this trick then I will first purchase the Sankey effect. I feel that just because I've 'worked something out' it doesn't give me the right to perform it.

Anyway, one question before I do buy this - are the 'burnt' cards separate or not? The Sankey demo makes it look like it is a solid block of glued together cards - and I know the specs will want to examine the 'burnt' portion of the deck - can they do that?

Cheers

The deck is totally examinable.......

easy Ben, easy!
where do you draw the line on making your own gimmick decks though? you would've have so much of a go at someone for making up an ID, certainly if they use an obscure colour or a slightly different set up. ah well, i'll take the high-way on this one and just shut up befor i start ranting (you've heard that all befor)

Lawrence wrote:.........where do you draw the line on making your own gimmick decks though? you would've have so much of a go at someone for making up an ID.......

That is a very interesting point!

Cardza wrote:TM is a forum which supports creators, not rips them off (and before you ask, yes, not buying the effect, making it yourself and then telling others how to do it - which would, as a necessary part of that - essentially tip the method anyway - is ripping off the creator

It’s ludicrous that someone can get their panties in a bunch over me saying id help people who want to make their own gimmick (and not tell them how to do a trick). Cause I know I’m not the first one…

While I’m apparently “ripping” Sankey off, I have also spent hundreds of dollars on his stuff.....but I have not been buying it for the gimmicks it comes with, I buy it so he can teach me how to do HIS method of using the gimmicks (his method being one of a billion different ones to choose from) However with this particular trick, I saw the idea and chose to make my own version of the gimmick and to use my own methods of using it to create my own version of the trick. (ha-ha-haaaa.... he'll never get MY moneeeeeeey!!!!) okay sorry, ill be serious~ =X

Anyhow-I don’t really care if that offends some people because I know that almost everyone that does magic has done something like it in one way or another, and it has NOTHING to do with how much respect you have for the creator and them getting more money....
Almost everyone here has performed a trick or a similar trick than one that is sold without paying directly paying the creator.
Who here has ever learned a trick from a friend?
Who here has ever seen a trick and did it your own way without buying the one you saw?
Most of all; Who here has seen a trick, figured it out, and then stopped to say “Nope! I can’t ever try this trick because I never paid the creator.”
And who the heck has paid to know a trick that they already know how to do?
But does this mean that you have no respect for the creator? No not at all!

And another thing - if burning a hole in some cards instead of paying 25 dollars for a factory to do it for me(and do a worse job at it) is ripping off Jay Sankey, then how exactly are we supposed to know what we are "allowed" and “not allowed” to make? Because trust me, Jay Sankey is NOT the first person ever to ingeniously 'invent' putting a hole through cards. There are other effects that involve cards with holes in them. But the deck with a hole is not what makes him the "creator.” He took a gimmick idea that was already thought of, and used sleights that were already thought of, and ideas (like burning a coin in flash paper) that have already been thought of, and just put them all together to make HIS own way to do an effect….and THAT is what he's selling. Creators make money off an effect by selling the secret of the trick, not the gimmick used (gimmicks can be bought anywhere)
And just because Sankey is marketing a trick that incorporates a bunch of ideas that have already been thought of and used repetitively for decades, does NOT give him the right to that own all of those ideas used in the trick. (Just like if I sold a trick that used a shimmed card, that would not mean that people can no longer have the right to make their own shimmed card and it doesn’t mean that they cant see my trick and use a shimmed card performing one similar to mine by using their own methods.

Just like Lawrance asked, "where do you draw the line on making your own gimmick decks?" You can’t draw a line unless you know where it starts and ends. And so far i have never seen anyone complain of people trading tips on how to make gimmicks.
If someone sees a trick and it inspires them to make their own version of a gimmick used in it and make up their own way of performing it (and doesn’t make money selling it), they have every right to.
You say that wax, IT, and swamis are different then a deck with a hole in it.....they are ALL gimmicks that can be/are used for different effects.

Cardza wrote:"no-one owns the rights to wax, ITs.....In A Flash is a marketed effect"

First of all no one has time to go around researching which gimmicks’ rights are owned and which ones aren’t...but that’s besides the point because you are comparing gimmicks to a trick, which are totally different? Gimmicks used in a trick and the secret of how to do a trick are not the same.
All I said was that I'd share my experience making the deck used in the effect, not that I would tell them how to do the effect. So if it's forbidden to discuss making your own version of a gimmick, does that mean that when I was told how to make soft wax from hard to help with doing CardOC, the person who marketed CardOC is getting ripped off? Or that when people talk about the method they use to make DF cards, that every person who owns a marketed effect that uses a DF card for is being ripped off?
No- Because it’s a gimmick, not the trick..which means someone could follow the directions and go make the soft wax, or make a DF card, or cut a hole in a card, but when they finish they still have no idea on how to do CardOC or UniveralM or InAF. And if they are poor like me and choose to instead make up their own inspired effect similar to one of the tricks that uses the gimmick, that’s their business because it’s their own personal effect then…

And as for the deck with a hole in it being some secret that some people didn’t know…. You act as if I'm the first one to mention the trick involves a deck with a hole in it. Go read any description of the trick and it describes the trick as an effect where a hole is burned through a deck. Most store descriptions even say "comes with the special gimmicked deck" Go watch any video about it/of it and you can see a deck with a hole with your own eyes. Or go read all the posts before I mentioned it and even the ones in other threads talking about this trick. Its not some special secret, it’s an obvious part of the trick. If knowing what kind of gimmick an effect uses was considered exposing the secret and telling how to do it, then hundreds of threads would have to be deleted right now. Thank of how many times you have read posts discussing gimmicks (& better yet, how to make them).



So if it bothers anyone that much that im telling how to make a gimmick openly. Then here ill just solve it like this.........


IF ANYONE IS INTRESTED IN IMPROVING THE "SPECIAL" DECK THAT COMES WITH IN A FLASH AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THEIR OWN BUT WOULD LIKE SOME HELP, PM ME AND TELL YOU ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE AND THE TIPS I LEARNED WHILE MAKING MY OWN


There- solved.