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by **flaw07** » Mar 2nd, '09, 19:06

Yes I've always been aware of the St Peters story, and I happen to dislike religeon greatly. You'd be amazed how many times I've been told I was going to hell for that necklace though. By clergy.

by **Tomo** » Mar 2nd, '09, 19:19

flaw07 wrote:Yes I've always been aware of the St Peters story, and I happen to dislike religeon greatly. You'd be amazed how many times I've been told I was going to hell for that necklace though. By clergy.

Tell them that you have it on Very Good Authority that telling people that sort of thing guarantees them a place in Hell, and see what they say :wink:

by **themagicwand** » Mar 2nd, '09, 19:24

Farlsborough wrote:
It is indeed fascinating - of course, Derren and Dawkins, being such enlightened beings, have in fact transcended their own world views and now comment on these things from an objective, "scientific" and unhindered perspective... .

Very funny. Made me smile. Well done.

by **Tomo** » Mar 2nd, '09, 21:01

Can comment be regarded as science?

by **IAIN** » Mar 2nd, '09, 21:31

flaw07 wrote:Yes I've always been aware of the St Peters story, and I happen to dislike religeon greatly. You'd be amazed how many times I've been told I was going to hell for that necklace though. By clergy.

i'd say to try and not spend your time not liking religon quite so much. I know some perfectly nice people who are religious and they truly dont harm anyone, preach or offer to pray on behalf of the infirmed. Its just the "leaders" of those holy businesses i have a problem with...

even satanism is a religion, by default...

i take it you have some strong religious family members or schooling? and they've chastised you for your music and the way you dress too? That's the person not paying attention to their own guidelines in said holy books...tell them that from me!

i would still like to know why is it - when there's a tsunami and it kills loads of people - its mother nature and not god! it doesnt mention god creating mother nature...so what...exactly....erm....

i think mother nature gets a lot of bad press...she seems like a good sort to me, brings us pretty flowers, lovely trees, amusing clouds...no wait..didnt god give us those? who owns what? whose responsibility is what here? I'm confused...

by **Mandrake** » Mar 2nd, '09, 21:35

IAIN wrote:mother nature......brings us..... amusing clouds...

Not since water privatisation, all the clouds belong to the Water Utilty companies now..... :cry:

by **Farlsborough** » Mar 2nd, '09, 23:34

Tomo wrote:Can comment be regarded as science?

I'd say not, which is why I put it in inverted commas. :wink:

But apparently the two are allowed to be jumbled together in a book sold as "pop. science"... I must say, I've found these books are often heavier on the "pop", but there we go...

by **EckoZero** » Mar 2nd, '09, 23:39

I have a thing for the rune Tyr
(And the band of the same name too!)

I had one I bought from the Anglo-Saxon village which I wore around my wrist on my driving test.
My driving instructor told me to bring a good luck charm with me for my test and we had spent many hours talking about Norse mythology whilst driving to and from Cambridge so I bought it for a laugh.

I was impressed that he remembered that Tyr was the god of war and that the rune denoted victory and protection.

I don't actually believe in anything like this, but it's fun to do something a bit silly like this once in a while.
As long as I don't start expecting good things to happen or even attributing them to things I don't see any problems

by **themagicwand** » Mar 2nd, '09, 23:49

Farlsborough wrote:I've found these books are often heavier on the "pop", but there we go...

I do love Derren, but I worry that he's fallen in with the "wrong crowd" (as my dear old Ma would say). As for Dawkins, I'm sure that all that poo-pooing must leave him quite pooed out.

But let's not start all that again. :wink:

by **EckoZero** » Mar 2nd, '09, 23:56

themagicwand wrote:As for Dawkins, I'm sure that all that poo-pooing must leave him quite pooed out.

General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett wrote:Well, I hope so, Blackadder. You know, if there's one thing I've learnt from being in the Army, it's never ignore a pooh-pooh. I knew a Major, who got pooh-poohed, made the mistake of ignoring the pooh-pooh. He pooh-poohed it! Fatal error! 'Cos it turned out all along that the soldier who pooh-poohed him had been pooh-poohing a lot of other officers who pooh-poohed their pooh-poohs. In the end, we had to disband the regiment. Morale totally destroyed... by pooh-pooh!

by **Tomo** » Mar 3rd, '09, 00:43

Farlsborough wrote:
Tomo wrote:Can comment be regarded as science?

I'd say not, which is why I put it in inverted commas.

Ah! Job's a good 'un.

by **Harry Guinness** » Mar 3rd, '09, 02:39

I always open a pack of crisps from the bottom.

by **Beardy** » Mar 3rd, '09, 02:53

Harry Guinness wrote:I always open a pack of crisps from the bottom.

I however, always open a packet of crisps from whichever side looks eaiser

absolutely no superstitions for me - none at all.

I dont walk under a ladder if someone is on it, but if it is empty I have no issues with it.

The only things I don;t do are the ones that may actually result in death through negilence, as opposed to karma or (as it is with the ladder) "breaking the holy trinity"

I have absolutely no belief in luck, as I still think of it as a psychological thing - someone who believes themselves lucky will do better due to them being more open and confident I think

unless of course, they dont revise for exams they know nothing about...then thats just stupid...unless they actually are geniunely lucky

by **kolm** » Mar 3rd, '09, 03:32

Blapsing_Beard wrote:I have absolutely no belief in luck, as I still think of it as a psychological thing - someone who believes themselves lucky will do better due to them being more open and confident I think

Yeah, Richard Wiseman has proved luck is psychological. Those who consider themselves lucky notice the opportunities (eg. notices in magazines saying "Stop counting and tell the experimenter you saw this notice and win $250") (PDF linky)

by **Beardy** » Mar 3rd, '09, 03:39

kolm wrote:
Blapsing_Beard wrote:I have absolutely no belief in luck, as I still think of it as a psychological thing - someone who believes themselves lucky will do better due to them being more open and confident I think

Yeah, Richard Wiseman has proved luck is psychological. Those who consider themselves lucky notice the opportunities (eg. notices in magazines saying "Stop counting and tell the experimenter you saw this notice and win $250") (PDF linky)

Indeed - I've experimented with it as part of my degree. Facinating stuff, I feel

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