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Farlsborough wrote:If you like the routine enough it'll inspire you to put the effort in to learn a move, or at the least it will force you to be creative, versatile and flexible enough to get round it and think of a way of doing without. In doing so, it's actually improving you as a magician irrespective of the routine in question.

Word. Necessity is the mother of invention, and the best way of coming up with new moves or sleights is to have a hole in an effect that needs to be filled.

madvillainy wrote:Ah, but does he have to touch the book?

The Mentalist holds up the open book at exactly the page the spec decides. The book is handed open to the mentalist and is never closed until the prediction has been revealed.

gunnarkr wrote:

madvillainy wrote:Ah, but does he have to touch the book?

The Mentalist holds up the open book at exactly the page the spec decides. The book is handed open to the mentalist and is never closed until the prediction has been revealed.

Wow that seems pretty fair..

Anyway for me : Anything with too much setup , or involving moves that I wouldn't do 'naturally'

hardik988 wrote:Anyway for me : Anything with too much setup , or involving moves that I wouldn't do 'naturally'

Seconded with the setup!

About the whole moving naturally thing though.. I think magicians hold themselves differently anyway - particularly in close up. Not adversely differently but with most of the things I do and play around with, I *know* I wouldn't have originally stood in a position I now do or handle a deck of cards the way I do... it's just something I have learned and acquired since getting into magic. It's therefore... kind of not natural but natural for skilled cardsmen dudeys. (Not saying I'm a skilled card lady here ;D)

Hmm. Don't know whether I've explained myself well. It's like... a load of dancers I know. Naturally their posture now is very upright and poised when I see them... which may be unnatural for me but looks fine on them?

lol. I'm sure you get me


But yeh, tricks that require lots of set up tend to annoy me. I prefer impromptu, anything I can get my hands on stuff... although always willing to try whatever is required if the result is awesome

Pheebs wrote:Don't know whether I've explained myself well.

Perfectly well . There's a clear difference between Uncle Jack doing a card trick for his bemused nephews and someone doing the same trick on stage, and much of that is relayed in adoptiing a posture. The tendancy seems to be something which is a little unnatural but only in the interests of openness and transparency - all that finger tip control, and holding things up in front of our chests, elbows pointing outwards...

I won't buy or perform a close-up trick if it requires a table or if it requires a reset of more than 2 seconds

Pheebs wrote:Hmm. Don't know whether I've explained myself well. It's like... a load of dancers I know. Naturally their posture now is very upright and poised when I see them... which may be unnatural for me but looks fine on them?

I know exactly what you mean. I work with a very nice lady who's mad on ballet and was a dancer when younger. She walks like a dancer, on her toes rather than heels and just has this "something" about her poise that's unique. She's incredibly graceful in all her movements and you can see the ballet training. It's lovely to watch, and not in a pervy way.