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Postby taffy » Mar 25th, '09, 08:52



Did you see his Ex? :shock: Apparently broke up with her to concentrate on his work!

Now I know he's living in dream land

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Postby daleshrimpton » Mar 25th, '09, 09:30

taffy wrote:Did you see his Ex? :shock: Apparently broke up with her to concentrate on his work!

Now I know he's living in dream land

ah yes, the psychic lap dancer :lol:

( does she feel mens bumps, and tell them whats on their mind?)

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Postby taffy » Mar 25th, '09, 09:31

daleshrimpton wrote:
taffy wrote:Did you see his Ex? :shock: Apparently broke up with her to concentrate on his work!

Now I know he's living in dream land

ah yes, the psychic lap dancer :lol:

( does she feel mens bumps, and tell them whats on their mind?)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby daleshrimpton » Mar 25th, '09, 09:31

pcwells wrote:I missed it. is it being repeated? BBC3 recycles eveything, I'm sure...



Pete, you going to wet your pants when you see this.

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 25th, '09, 09:50

Gary has a very dangerous self delusion but his 'patients' are even more worrying. Despite hard evidence that he hadn't 'cured' her in any way, that one lady returned to him for more treatment and even defended Gary. I know there's a point when people will cling to almost any shred of hope but surely this isn't it? Best part for me was the old guy being treated with Gary's hands on his head and he was asked what he was being treated for. The guy couldn't remember so asked his daughter and she immediately replied, 'Alzheimer's'. Not very funny I suppose but it made me smile! I'm quote convinced that the only thing Gary has to offer is his time and attention which seemed to be sadly lacking from the NHS in the cases covered. If you're sidelined by mainstream medicine, there's only the 'alternative' kind left.

The BadSceptics' guy came across as being a bit harsh and pompous but that might just be the way it was edited, I think they may have been able to offer more evidence to be followed up but at least the Beeb obtained the services of a qualified medial practitioner to check as much as possible. What we didn't get to learn was how many 'patients' have died despite receiving Gary's treatment and how he would explain that away. Perhaps a further programme could check into the sudden rash of Oriental Herb and Treatment shops which seem to be in every city, there must be a few stories to be told in that respect.

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Postby daleshrimpton » Mar 25th, '09, 10:00

the highlight for me had to be the pendulum "swinger"( i choose the word, because it looked like a 70s sex party).

who got the name of someones aunt wrong.

"ah... the pendulum knows all... she was called Mary in a past life!"

I laughed my rocks off!!!

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Postby Renato » Mar 25th, '09, 10:07

pcwells wrote:I missed it. is it being repeated? BBC3 recycles eveything, I'm sure...


It's on BBC iPlayer now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... Possessed/

Just started watching it...

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 25th, '09, 10:21

daleshrimpton wrote:it looked like a 70s sex party
Someone is bound to ask how you know that but please don't tell us!

That pendulum thing was strange, with all those crystals on bits of chain it looked like a conker tournament sponsored by Swarovski...

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Postby daleshrimpton » Mar 25th, '09, 10:25

It's a story involving magazines, and my dads wardrobe. Thats all you need to know :lol:

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Postby pcwells » Mar 25th, '09, 12:07

Just finished watching it on iPlayer.

The whole new age thing didn't come over well, did it? :shock:

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Postby daleshrimpton » Mar 25th, '09, 12:16

what did come across, was there is definatly a "type" that goes to these things.overweight middle aged ladies, and balding older men, looking for love.(The widow count presumably being higher at these events, than down the pub, or in Tesco)

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 25th, '09, 12:27

It was also quite clear that 'New Age' is big business with a lot of money involved. I wonder how many of those exhibiting at the Psychic Fairs genuinely believed in what they were doing or were there just to make money. Nothing wrong with that of course, most commercial firms actively promote their benefits but have to make a living as well, but in the case of taking money from those who are at some sort of desperation level and with no real guarantees, it somehow seems very grubby.

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Postby kartoffelngeist » Mar 25th, '09, 12:40

I loved the narrator trying not to laugh at the idea of a psychic stripper...

Also enjoyed Abraham sounding a lot like a bad impression Winston Churchill...

The pendulum reader's out was impressive. 'She may have been called Ana is a past life........'

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Postby Tomo » Mar 25th, '09, 12:49

Mandrake wrote:It was also quite clear that 'New Age' is big business with a lot of money involved. I wonder how many of those exhibiting at the Psychic Fairs genuinely believed in what they were doing or were there just to make money. Nothing wrong with that of course, most commercial firms actively promote their benefits but have to make a living as well, but in the case of taking money from those who are at some sort of desperation level and with no real guarantees, it somehow seems very grubby.

Remember "Enemies of Reason" with (I'll whisper his name in case someone hears) Richard Dawkins? The bloke who gave him a reading at a psychic fair was absolutely rubbish at it, and yet, he was clearly there to make some brass out of it.

He he: where there's belief there's brass. That's nearly as good as "cash from chaos"!

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Postby pcwells » Mar 25th, '09, 13:50

Mandrake wrote:It was also quite clear that 'New Age' is big business with a lot of money involved. I wonder how many of those exhibiting at the Psychic Fairs genuinely believed in what they were doing or were there just to make money. Nothing wrong with that of course, most commercial firms actively promote their benefits but have to make a living as well, but in the case of taking money from those who are at some sort of desperation level and with no real guarantees, it somehow seems very grubby.


I see exactly the same thing elsewhere though - particularly the world of vitamins and dietry supplements.

Take this example:

Dietrim® is a revolutionary supplement based on the very latest scientific research, designed to help you maintain an optimum body composition and stay in shape. Each capsule combines 26 bio-active ingredients including Tonalin® CLA (conjugated linoleic acid), which may assist you in attaining an ideal ratio of body fat to lean muscle as part of a healthy slimming and exercise programme, Dietrim® can also help you to maintain a healthy metabolism and protect against the extra free radicals generated during exercise.


The bolding is my own for emphasis.

Note the word MAY as opposed to WILL.

Also, the fact that it only works if you diet and exercise (a combination that will make you lose weight and tone up anyway).

Is this much different to the new age market?

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