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Haven't even got the DVD yet and I've already killed somebody.

That Anthony Jacquin's good, isn't he?

madvillainy wrote:Never mentioning the "H" word also saves a buttload of trouble with bookers. Martin Taylor doesn't bill himself as a hypnotist because plenty of bookers won't touch them out of some fear that somebody's going to keel over.

Yup, the subconscious will still fall for those beguiling, silken words just as heavily without them having a label.

It arrived through the door this morning - very nice little box set it is too.

I'm probably going to watch this a few times over to really get the work on some of the techniques, but first impressions are thus:

- The techniques do seem to work.
- Some of the live performances are a bit Magaluf, but they're worth watching just to see the mechanics of it.

I'm still not sure if I'm ever going to use anything off these DVDs - not so much because I'm skeptical, as I was with Reality Is Plastic (although I'm still not entirely sure about some of it), but because I'm not sure how to make it flush with the rest of the work I do. That said, I'd definitely recommend it to anybody who either wants to be a full-on hypnotist, and do all the "now I'm invisible" stuff, or just wants to mix it with mindreading or card stuff, because some of the effects on this DVD are definitely worth considering.

I think most of the effects on this disc would be infinitely more interesting - hypno-forces etc. - if the audience doesn't know you're a hypnotist (or, if the amnesia works, the victim doesn't). That's what I think - if I do use it at all - I'll use this stuff for; pre-show and stuff like that.

I just ordered the set. I anticipate a good watch.

sleightlycrazy wrote:I anticipate a good watch.

You might be dissapointed as they're DVD's

I'll get my coat

Agecroft wrote:

sleightlycrazy wrote:I anticipate a good watch.

You might be dissapointed as they're DVD's

I'll get my coat

Once I hypnosteal a watch, I'll be satisfied...

(actually, thanks to RIP, I've done so several times already*...!)



*returned 'em, of course

Right, I've had Manchurian for a while, and a week ago, I was asked to a friend's party where they wanted me to do something after dinner.

I tried magnetic fingers, the hands coming together, and it worked great, but when it came to crunch time, actually putting them under... I just couldn't do it. I don't mean I tried and failed, I couldn't actually push on with it. Don't know why, it just didn't feel right. I eventually used magnetic hands as cover for a watch steal (Chappy Brazil type, obviously, as they weren't under), which was good, but I'm not sure I'll ever use it now. Maybe next time I'll do it, it'll feel like the right thing to do, but for now I'm going to stick to being a pickpocketing, information-peeking rat rather than a hypnotist.

madvillainy wrote: I'm going to stick to being a pickpocketing, information-peeking rat rather than a hypnotist.

No! Don't give up! Ask yourself this - why can you steal a watch and peak at a billet (or whatever) without fear, but can't take someone from magnetic hands to fully under? You already have the bottle, or you wouldn't be a pick-pocket. And if they've got their hands stuck together they're 50% of the way there. All you've got to do is give 'em a little push!

Have faith! Give it another go. The more you think about it, the more you realise that you can do it...

Thanks man, I really appreciate the encouragement. Pickpocketing is mechanical to me though - I can nick anybody's watch because it's totally under control, and if it doesn't go my way, I've only myself to blame. With stuff like this, where it's so dependent on the psychological make-up of others, that leaves variables open that I find terrifying. As strange as it is to say it, I feel much safer relieving them of their items when they're wide awake.
I know you're right, and eventually - just like the first time I clumsily peeled a watch off without being nabbed - I'll just try it out of curiosity as much as boldness. As far as boldness goes though, I'd say that carrying this off is way more bold then emptying somebody's pockets. I present pickpocketing as a kind of semi-hypnotic act anyway, it stands to reason that eventually I'll meet the two in the middle, it's just going to take a bit of a run-up.

I agree with madvillainy- I've done the fingers and hands.... it's just taking the next step that's proving elusive.

However, I'm sure it really is just case of 'getting on with it' - but I think I'll be joining you on that long run-up!

Sean

I'm not sure what to think any more.

Last saturday, I hypnotized a kid and he responded very well to everything. He seemed to forget his name, attacked his favorite football team, stopped being able to see me, and even thought he was a girl. The last bit worked to the point where he put on make up and nail polish.

Then today, when I tried hypnotizing him, he told me he'd been faking the entire time. Yet he put on make up and let me slap him (while I was "invisible").

So I'm really not sure what to think about hypnosis any more.

heh,

the joy of being a hypnotist that discovers RIP and etc after having the confidence to do the hypnotizing part.

First hypnosis is real. If you had an fMRI machine you could see the brain pattern change and be confident that you had succeeded.

Barring that there are other concrete tells. You sort of just have to do it to get used to noticing but there are things to look for.

The tension in the face tends to release and the face gets what is called "rounder or longer" they get a bit more flush as the blood vessels loosen.

The pupils dilate which is a pretty obvious sign. You will notice breathing pattern changes and even pulse changes if you can see a throbbing vain.

The problem from going Magnetic hands to full conversion is you doubt a) if you can do it, b) if its ethical and c) if they aren't just lying to you.

That last one was a big deal for me as I was convinced my friends were just putting me on. It wasn't until I had a friend that wanted me to do it again and again that I realized I was providing something she couldn't do on her own.

So find someone you trust and do it them until your sure they aren't lying and then go forth and convert people willy nilly

In the end the great thing about hypnosis is that if they don't want to do the suggestion they won't do it. Your totally off the hook.

--Infy

Glad to hear read these comments about The Manchu.

It is only in the last year I have got to know some pickpockets, namely James Brown and Ravi Mayar. From what I can see the mindset for pickpocketing is very close to the mindset for an seemingly impromptu approach to hypnosis.

That said I can't pickpocket for toffee.

Sleightlycrazy, I seem to remember you have been here before when someone claimed they faked it. Maybe they did. If they put make up on and got slapped I doubt it. Just ensure you give him a suggestion that satisfies you before he has achance to for his rationalization. Remember Professor Graham Wagstaff made the same illogical leap after being hypnotized by Kreskin. He has psent the last 25 years trying to prove he was faking

Anthony

I feel a little sorry for Chris. Is he in a permanent state of suggestibility now?

Yes. Permanosis.

Anthony