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Pepper's Ghost is easy enough, but couldn't be done in the middle of an open field, which was the original question.

peppers ghost isnt really a way of making someone vanish though.

Its a way of producing someone.


And you couldnt do it in the open, with no covers, ect.. because you would have to

a.. do it on top of a large box,

or

b.. do it just behind a ruddy great hole in the ground.

JakeThePerformer wrote:

jim ferguson wrote:One of the best vanishes and appearences ive ever seen of a person was a stage effect called The Blue Room. The appearances were gradual, as were the vanishes, they just faded away in front of your eyes.

jim

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... w=3&emb=1#

Assuming this is what you were referring to, this is a demonstration of it, without camera tricks.

It would be creepy to see live, though today's audience may jump to the conclusion that it is simply modern technology.

I've seen pepper's ghost before and now how it works. Its an extremely clever effect using basic principles, but could not be done in an open, ordinary field.

That Blue Room effect however, I've never even heard of, its amazing, what an elegant piece of magic. Who was the creator of it, does anybody know?

oh yes.Absolutly.

It was the work of Harry Kellar.
( constructed by Martinka)

Incidently in principle, It is totaly different to peppers ghost, since it uses a graduated mirrored surface, and not a clear glass.
This means it can be performed in full light.
Peppers ghost can only be performed in semi darkness.
also, you need an area of at least 3 times the apparent area in which to perform it, the ground has to be 100% flat, and you also have quite a large team back stage.

the video you have seen, was the version built by Jim Steinmeyer and John Gaughan . It was fully covered some years ago in an edition of magic magazine. And no.. Its not easy to transport, as the mirror used has to be huge, one piece, and perfect.


for more info, please refer to Sharps optical secrets.

the version shown in Hopkins, mentioned above, is very basic.

P.S....
The full performance of teh Blue Room, can be found on the dvd Lance Burton and the secrets of magic.
Despite It's title, Its not an exposure dvd, it just has 3 of Garry Oulette's specials, featuring Lance and a host of other huge names in magic..
and some clasic Illusions.

kolm wrote:

Craig Browning wrote:Pepper's Ghost will cost you an arm & a leg to make happen and requires an arrangement akin to how theater's of the Victorian era were laid out.

Pepper's Ghost is insanely easy and inexpensive to do. All you need is a bit of glass, a couple of lights, and a well designed set. It's still used to this day and the idea behind it has also spawned other technology such as teleprompters, which has spawned the rather cool Interrotron

I can't see that given how I've helped set the thing up and too, how it is used at the Disney parks (while theirs are a modernized variation)

To properly do Pepper's Ghost requires you to set the theater a specific way; said facility hosting a deep and recessed Orchestra pit and proper lighting. The Glass that is used must be poured out on the stage used and once polished, raised into position... on top of this you have a very large mirror that's required so as to create the projection onto the glass plate...
... so as I said, it's a bloody expensive course of investment.


I don't think I have the names misplaced here when it comes to which is which

I think you're overcomplicating things, Craig. See a demonstration which doesn't use a pit, doesn't use mirrors, and is set in a house rather than a stage here

so can the blue room theoretically be p[erformed in a field with no set if not does anyone have any idea to make a person vanish in the open in full view.

I'm quiet drunk and was about to scream at you but theres a good chance I 've misunderstood this question.
Are you asking if you can make someone disappear in APPARENTLY open air or LITERALLY open air?

magiccmb wrote:so can the blue room theoretically be p[erformed in a field with no set

no.

I think Chris is done here.

A lovely , semi portable peppers ghost.....

http://members.shaw.ca/clawback/Peppers ... Ghost.html

could you do it if you had a very black art set up with the background of the field printed on making it look open air! yes it would be exspensive but am theorising something.

no. If you have anything painted on black, Its no longer Black.
Seriously, if your theorising, do yourself a favour and buy sharps optical secrets, because if it's possible, Its in there.

no use the black art method but with a back drop of the field your in

you dont understand how Black art works. It has to be black.


just do it at night.