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Hi guys, me again

as i told you, im starting a new streetmagicpracticetour where i want to practice a new routine for me. Id like you, as you are experts, to ask for hints.

here my idea. I want to ask the spectator to think of any word, then to tell me that word. After that i want to pull out the prediction out of my trouserspocket. The question now is, which version is most shocking? I want to do a small hypnotism before asking the spectator of any word to think of, so it should seem to him, i brought him to think of exactly that one word.

now i tried to pocketwrite some words with the s***i. That works now. Now i need an effect that shocks them most. Pulling the billet out of a wallet would be cool, but there are so many wallets that arent explained, so i dont know which is the right one for that idea. Next opinion would be that small envelope routine, so i could put the billet out of an envelope which was in my pocket.

the best effect would be to write a prediction on a billet, lay this billet on a table etc. And after the "hypnotism" they name me the word and open the billet from the table in which the thought word was in. In this case i need something great to change the billets.

it should be a real shocking effect.

have any ideas? Im looking forward for your ideas. Summer and streetmagic could come. (into the abyss from oz pearlman could be an alternative. What about that?)

thank you for so many help so long!
Best wishes from nuremberg/germany:

heiko

The prediction from an envelope that's been sat on the table the whole time is always a strong one, better in my opinion than taking it out of a pocket after they've named their word. As for the billet on the table idea, what's wrong with a basic billet switch?

i dont know how or where to switch the billets. with a thumb t*p i find it not as good as the envelope from the table. i dont know where to find the name of the routine, i could lay the envelope down the table and open it after the spectator named the word...

Forget the envelope A tabled folded billet is enough in this envioroment.



You should get all the information you need on teh switch in 13 steps, or the Bob Cassidy d.v.d Black Box Cinema.

or you could invest in Brestlers Switchcraft, though this may be a bit Information overload at the moment.

ok, only ebook (switchcraft)

get yourself a copy of 13 Steps to Mentalism, that's got everything in it that you need to know.

Lady of Mystery wrote:get yourself a copy of 13 Steps to Mentalism, that's got everything in it that you need to know.

Well spoken.

In your original question you ask "Which version is most shocking?" The only real answer to this is: The version you do the best is going to be the most shocking. It all comes to experience. On the street the whole envelope thing is too much. It has got to be quick and dirty you can get a post it pad, write down the prediction, toss it on your table, (from your post I'm assuming you have a table) and go from there. Method? As stated earlier, 13 steps to mentalism. A Bobo Switch also fits the bill, in the end, again method doesn't matter as long as it works for you.

Another option worth investigating is 'The Devil's Touch' by Daniel Madison..

Ok. Sounds good. Will look for that stuff, but is there any wallet or sth. Else i could write a prediction with the s***i on a billet that is IN that wallet, which i could take out of my pocket? I could open the wallet and pull out the billet with the prediction. I would like to have that too, if there was no table next to me. Is there any wallet out there.

My 2 pence. I would not involve the superfluous use of a sw**i when you could just as easily use pocket writing. If I was going to do this sort of effect I would want my audience to remember that I never even touched it- so I would have a word written and then pencil read it or extract that information some how, then Personally I would insert it into the envelope secretly, perhaps carbon impression or just a simple slit in the envope to insert a billet used for pocket writing and then I would do something to distance my handling of the envolope to their naming of the word- Be it hypnosis or some lengthy entertaining process of 'influencing' the spectator and then have them name the word and open the envelope they are holding.
Alternativley I could just use a window envelope- the effect is the same.
Or, a swami gimmick/ pocket writer and a billet switch.
As I beleiv has been said, there are many ways of doing this and the only best version is the one which is performed best. How you frame the trick, how you present it, how difficult you make it for the audience to reverse engineer and back track, how entertaining and mysterious will make it epic.

Now, Nothing I just described there isn't contained in the 13 steps (I'm not 100% on the pocket writing though). So, invest a little more time in that wonderful book.

Hi, sam,

nice to read you again. When i pocketwrite it, there is only one thing i could do that...with a s***i i guess. And you are right. The best version would be billetswitching (already got "switchcraft" now. An absolutely mighty book as i think) or with the envelope i could get the message in. Are there any routines i could get? Carbon sounds good, gonna watch on the net for the effect. That would of course be the best effect. Looks just unbelievable.

any futher ideas?

greets: heiko

I think the switching slips idea opens up potential for weakening the effect. In Ward & Lock's "The Art of Modern Conjuring" the author advises you hold a postcard high in the air while the member of the audience is thinking of a word, then while you engage in patter with the audience member you use your index finger of the hand holding the postcard to write the prediction.
It saves you having to hide your hand in your pocket and then all this switching.

V.E. Day wrote:I think the switching slips idea opens up potential for weakening the effect. In Ward & Lock's "The Art of Modern Conjuring" the author advises you hold a postcard high in the air while the member of the audience is thinking of a word, then while you engage in patter with the audience member you use your index finger of the hand holding the postcard to write the prediction.
It saves you having to hide your hand in your pocket and then all this switching.

It only opens up the potential for weakness if the audience suspects a switch is involved. If not (as should be the case) then there is no potential for the weakening of the effect.

Conversly you run the risk of weakening the effect if your spectators think you are somehow writing down the information while they are giving it to you, (as they notice your index finger moving strangely behind a post card). Both will work for different performers. It all goes back to your performance.

Think of it like forcing a card. If the audience doesn't know you are forcing a card it doesn't matter what method you use. Use the one that works best for you.

The best thing to do is to put together as many different methods that you can think of and get out and perform them. It's only then that you'll find out which one works best for you.