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The Chicago Opener by me

Postby orenmi6 » May 30th, '10, 17:41



The Chicago Opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfhRrOhPZXQ
Enjoy
please comments and notes about what I can improve

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Postby Serendipity » May 31st, '10, 11:49

Is it supposed to be silent, or is that my computer?

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Postby SamGurney » May 31st, '10, 13:18

I used to use some a subtleties which I have no idea if anyone else uses, but anyway...
Even though I don't need to, I classic force the first card so when we find a curious red card in the spread or fan e.t.c. I take it out and look at it and then ask them 'you're card wasn't 'the force card' was it?' (Obviosly I don't ask them if it was the force card :lol: , but the identity of the force card). This suggests nonverbally that the red card's identity really is the card they picked because by taking it directly from the spread I couldn't be doing any false lifts. It is also a nice way to practice the classic force on real people without any real danger- be forceful, but calm with the handling of classic forces, it is all in how you frame it and timing, not a technichal ability.

There then tends to be a little bit of anticipation and tension at which point I put the card back on the packet and there's a small pause for tention and then do a dl and show that the red card really is the card they picked.

I also used to put a lot of emphasis on the red card and that I wasn't swapping it- not too much or it becomes suspicious 'and look that I am not swapping this' is too direct- I simply handled the card very delicatley and said, keep your eye on that. Looking back I'm not sure if this was too overt or not... Another thing I thought would be a nice touch is if to excuse the turning over of the dl- it is after all not the natural thing to do, turn a card back over for no reason-Instead of turning the card over and then turing it back over to get rid of the double, how I tend to handle dls, is by holding them as one card to show the face and the back, applying pressure on either sides as I hold so that the cards don't slip and expose anything, and then almost like a top change with the same misdirection, my hands come together, load the chosen card onto the top and then come back away again which leaves you clean to put it down on the table. I hope that makes sense.

Unfortunatley we didn't get to hear you're presentation, but be creative. If you do gambling routines, then I have heard a very interesting presentation of having a card chosen and then saying 'and to make this card identifiable, we put what is called a crimp in it, so it stand out' and then when the red turns up 'oh.. that seems to have made it stand out a lot', which I think is interesting. This is the thing most worth thinking about, a plot (not necceserily a corny and patronising story- but somehwew to 'place' the magic).
I have gone on for too long, but it is a nice effect, and I hope there is something in my ramblings of value.

edit: I have just been toying with this now and I had a few more ideas. I think it is better to use a dribble force or something in order to put the first chosen card back. The second time when you force a card (Please delete this if this is too much exposure..) you could make it vanish from the deck by any number of means, which I think makes the plot better and more interesting.

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Postby orenmi6 » May 31st, '10, 19:43

Thank you.
you helped me a lot =]
The idea with the rid of from the DL is great.
Abut the classic force when I performing I don't risk with him
because it's not working for me in 100% of the time
and abut the presentation my english as you probably saw is not
the best and I have a funny accent.

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Postby SamGurney » May 31st, '10, 21:10

I have had my hand in learning other languages, and if there is one thing which can make it a pain is the accent :lol: It seems I can perfect my french accent when I speaking in England, but the second I am trying to talk french with real french people I lose all my ability for fear of sounding like an idiot. The funny thing is that if you are worried about sounding like and idiot- the more you wil sound like one, so don't worry :D

And btw, thats why I said it was a good way to PRACTICE the classic force without it being essential or important if it goes wrong. I hope that helps you. The trick with the classic force is to not have the card there as they come to take one, but to have it a few cards down so that the timing is just right- sometimes I have had to litterally shove it into their fingers in place of another one :lol: It will come with practice, I think Hugard said after 100 times of doing it on real people you will get a good feel for it.

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