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Hello there:D

i was wondering if there are excisting stack making concepts.. that happen under observation (not prestacked)

let me be more clear:D with texas hold em when i want a royal flush i could spread the deck and roadrunner cull all the 5 best cards to the top (royal flush hearts) but... then i dont got them in the good position needed for the poker stack ....



i could also roadrunnercull extra cards in between the royal flush cards like

10H/ odd/ JH/ odd/ BURN/ qH/ kH / aH

BUT!! with a legit shuffled deck the problem is that sometimes 2 of the royal flushed cards are next to eachother and therefore the stack cant be created..
ALSO if this would be a 3 or 4 player game the chance of this happening will be much greater and thus not a good way to achieve the stack...


Me and my fellow magician made a stack creating way that is unnoticable if done right to create a texas hold em stack for a minimum of ofcourse 2 UNTILL 8 or more players... also the position on the table can be changed... so u can sit everywhere next to the dealer or second from


MY question to you guys is:D

is there a way that is already out there? and whats it called? or did whe made something new?

Faro Shuffle.

Molinari Cull, both culls the cards and stacks them at the same time. if you do it well it looks like a regular overhand shuffle.

Lay stacking's always fun...

kartoffelngeist wrote:Lay stacking's always fun...

It's quite good. You'd have to be bold to stack a specific set of cards though rather than just 'a good hand' though.

If you used the cards in a piece before it would be possible.

phillipnorthfield wrote:

kartoffelngeist wrote:Lay stacking's always fun...

It's quite good. You'd have to be bold to stack a specific set of cards though rather than just 'a good hand' though.

If you used the cards in a piece before it would be possible.

Aye, it's handy for impromptuey stuff, stacking a decent hand for example. I tend to control the cards to the top, deal 5 hands with some excuse (demonstrating a bottom deal for example), stack them up and you're good to go!

Think Anneman has a few card effects using the same concept. (Incedently, I really enjoy Anneman's card work, worth looking at...)

@ Mr_Grue

a farao would only work with a 2 player game a 3 or 4 player game wont work


@phillipnorthfield

will be investigating that cull sounds the same as i got

@kartoffelngeist

lay stacking?
yeah hahah i seen that one where the demonstation becomes a one ahead on the spectators and they all follow the wrong thing (the bottom deal that aint there)

Miniolo wrote:@ Mr_Grue
a farao would only work with a 2 player game a 3 or 4 player game wont work

1 faro for a 2 player game; 2 for a 4 player game, but you're right, no dice for a 3 player game.

The Nikola system in Encyclopedia of Card Tricks tells you how to stack the deck in the course of an effect. I believe it's in the BCS book too, and it works with any full deck stack.

Barry

If you take a shuffled deck and cull the royal flush to the top of the deck and would like to do a poker deal of 4 hands, it's possible to deal your flush at any named number 1-4 using two faro's

If this is exposure please remove it but you need to do an external faro (so card 1 of your stack is still on top) then ask for the number 1-4 named and do another faro. If they say 1 do an outside, 2 do an inside faro, 3 do a faro with 2 cards above your stack and 4 with 3 cards above your stack. I hope this made sense and is OK to post

@Mr_Grue

indeed only for the even amount of players a farao would be perfect.. but even though its hard to do a large amount of perfect farao s in one row... also it does not cover the cards on table .... only with 2 people


@magicofthemind

Ohh got that dvd somewhere laying around i will look into it thanks:D

with any full deck stack ? u mean i could make a 8 kings stack from a shuffled deck without them noticing ? that sounds to good to be true:P


@mrz0mbie

hi there:) i get it but with doing externals or internals it gives the good effect on the top cardYES:P but the second card it does not..

but anyhow still not good enough because the flop turn and river are not effected in this method

Sorry Miniolo, I was thinking of doing a draw poker hand, it seems you're trying to stack in a hold em game

no problem mr zombie;) u just tried to help

Miniolo wrote:
@magicofthemind

Ohh got that dvd somewhere laying around i will look into it thanks:D

with any full deck stack ? u mean i could make a 8 kings stack from a shuffled deck without them noticing ? that sounds to good to be true:P

Thinking about it, it may be too obvious to work with a stack that rotates the suits. Oh, and I was talking about a book, not a DVD.

Barry

yeah dont like the alternating chased sequence either.. thats why i made my own