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One thing I'd like to add: a couple years ago, I was playing around with a clear cup after watching P&T do their routine (I was messing around with chop cup routine ideas) and found that if you have a ball displayed on your left palm, the cup in your right hand with a different ball palmed and ready to be loaded under the cup in the right hand, you can do a decent color change. While pretending to put the visible left hand ball under the cup, lap it and load the palmed right hand ball instead. All this is done in a fluid motion while seemingly placing the left ball under the cup while setting the cup down. I don't know if you can use it, but if you can, you're welcome to.

Hmmmm . . .

Somebody mentioned this routine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEYmGnK4K9g

I know the guy who dreamt it up. I don't care for his presentation, but I think he has some good ideas.

KG

All this reminds me of the old adage in magic, "Many a good trick is killed by improvement".

I tend to agree with you here Mark.

In my opinion a full Cups and Balls routine already has a danger of becoming confusing as there is alot (especially by close-up standards) going on. This is why i mentioned on the first page of this thread that having the balls changing colour throughout the routine may actually add to this confusion. The simpler and easier to follow (from the spectators perspective) the better.

It also begs the question of wether adding additional effects to a routine makes it any better. As we know the Cups already demonstrate many of the effects possible in conjuring. Is adding more, a colour change, levitation, animation, actually improving the overall effect ? Or simply adding unwanted chaff ?

Im not saying it cant be done, just that its too easy to do it badly. Although, i havent seen the OPs routine so cant comment on it specifacally - for all I know, it could be exellent


jim

I should forget anything to do with colour changes of balls. Confusion is not magic. A trick should go from A to B without diversions and deviations. To quote from the presentation section of Expert Card Technique, "If three cards are to fly from one packet to another, let the cards make their magical pilgrimage by a direct route; do not detour one of them into your coat pocket, produce it, vanish it and send it to complete its journey after, as a final fillip, having front and back palmed the card for several moments. Never destroy the unity of a trick in such a manner. You would not enjoy a motion picture in which hte hero, racing to rescue the heroine from the villain, stopped in at a confectioner's shop to partake of a milkshake and to exchange banter with the proprietor"

A lot of this complication tosh is what used to be known in the old days as "conjuring for conjurers". You would be well advised not to indulge in such foolishness.

As a lover of the cups and balls I always like to see a new (to me) presentation. I can't say that tricolour one has made my top ten, but it was nice to see something different none the less. Thanks for posting it, Kent.