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magicrob wrote:I'd strongly feel that this idea is not at all in keeping with the spirit of this Forum; I love this place because of the fun, passion and positivity of the members here, so a subforum, concentrarting only on gripes, whinges and (possible) bad-mouthing wouldn't go down at all well with me, I'm afraid.
So, no thank you
BigShot wrote:I'm not saying there shouldn't be one, but I'm not sure we need one.
Unjustified dichotomy alert:
It strikes me that there are two kinds of beginners. (I told you.)
1> They follow the advice, they buy one or two of the standard first stops (RRTCM, Bobo, Wilson's Complete, Tarbell 1, Card College 1) and start learning. After that they get an idea of what they like doing and buy more good, peer-recommended books that lead them in that direction.
2> They ignore all the advice, go out and buy the current big thing, an entire multi-volume series in one hit and the entire Theory11 catalogue. When they don't do what they want they either transform into a Type 1 or look for the next DVD or book that's going to make them amazingly good.
I don't see how a hall of shame would help either of them. 1 wouldn't be getting that stuff anyway and 2 probably wouldn't listen.
Not forgetting, of course, that a lot of the buyer's shame comes from not being prepared to work hard and instead expecting the mere buying and watching of a DVD or use of a new prop to turn them into something they aren't without a lot of hard work.
I'd be concerned such a forum would become flooded with tales of woe and disappointment from those who weren't prepared to make a new book or DVD work for them, while those who are actually getting something from the same book or DVD are too busy practicing and working with it.
While I've been typing this I see some other comments have gone up. With regards to misleading descriptions (really not a good thing) I'd have thought a standard review in the reviews section would do that job well. If someone would read a Hall of Shame to see if a product isn't what it's cracked up to be before buying it, surely they'd read the review forum too?
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