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Am having real trouble with my DL and Erdnase change, is it just a matter of keeping trying and working hard or could it be I'm doing something wroong?

Which DL are you trying to learn? There are a whole heap of them out there. Some require get readys, some do not. If you are using a DL that requires a get ready, such as a break, the real key is not making it blatantly obvious that you are preparing the cards somehow.

Lenoir wrote:Which DL are you trying to learn? There are a whole heap of them out there. Some require get readys, some do not. If you are using a DL that requires a get ready, such as a break, the real key is not making it blatantly obvious that you are preparing the cards somehow.

Working from Oz Pearlman's Born to Perform DVD

Yes a small get ready, with a pinky break

I use a non break method but it's so unnatural. I lift from the short side of the card and it doesn't look right at all.

Thing is, I've performed it so often that it now looks a natural move to the lay and it's never been questioned. I can't remember where I got this method from but if I do have a chance to catch a break, I still turn the card the same.

Do you have an iPhone with 'whatsapp'? I'll gladly show how I do it as a way not to perform it!!

Alec

Can you be more specific about what exactly the trouble is ?


jim

Alec Kobain wrote:I use a non break method but it's so unnatural. I lift from the short side of the card and it doesn't look right at all.

Thing is, I've performed it so often that it now looks a natural move to the lay and it's never been questioned. I can't remember where I got this method from but if I do have a chance to catch a break, I still turn the card the same.

Do you have an iPhone with 'whatsapp'? I'll gladly show how I do it as a way not to perform it!!

Alec

I don't even have an iPhone Alec!

jim ferguson wrote:Can you be more specific about what exactly the trouble is ?


jim

Well, the Erdnase change, I just find difficult full stop as the hand moving up and down that quickly there is a lot to do, there are times when I will almost, "get lucky" and get most of it done...but this is quite a tricky move right? I wasn't expecting to get this done rightaway

And the DL its more the get ready I am struggling with...

*Mods if this needs to be moved to the restricted area then apologies for not posting there intially*

I might be wrong but I don't think you have to do the Erdnase change quickly, as long as the card replacing the original is concealed throughout it shouldn't matter. Making it smooth is important though, so make the whole action flow into a single, continuous movement. Don't pause at the parts where the card is pulled back or pushed over the top.

Hope that helps.

cc100 wrote:I might be wrong but I don't think you have to do the Erdnase change quickly, as long as the card replacing the original is concealed throughout it shouldn't matter. Making it smooth is important though, so make the whole action flow into a single, continuous movement. Don't pause at the parts where the card is pulled back or pushed over the top.

Hope that helps.

Sorry, my bad, explained myself a little incorrectly

When I say "quickly" I mean that the hand moving up and down a couple of inches a lot is happening in a short space of time

cc100 wrote: Don't pause at the parts where the card is pulled back or pushed over the top.

That depends. In the original, and many of its variations, the hand is moving to show the card ''just once more'' before it changes. In this context there should be a slight pause between showing the card, and moving back over for the change.


Alfred, what effect are you using the DL for ? The reason im asking is that I use a few different methods for my get-ready, depending on the context.


jim

Hey Jim

Was trying to learn ACR, so DL is used a fair bit

And although the Pearlman ACR might not be the best, I do quite like learning from him

Does he have a performance online ? Ive never seen his ACR so dont know the sequence you're doing.

jim

jim ferguson wrote:Does he have a performance online ? Ive never seen his ACR so dont know the sequence you're doing.

jim

I can't seem to find one...would explaining it help?

Check out the LJ Snap Double...it's what Daryl uses in his brilliant ACR routine..available on a youtube near you.

Edit. My post may have been a tad revealing

I found this clip on you tube. Its someone else performing it so i dont know how accurate it is. Is it at 1:11 that you're having the trouble ?

PS, I know the guy in the clips get-ready is terrible, its the only clip i could find

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AEx_LqzfRQ


jim