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Postby craigcox893 » Mar 8th, '06, 14:55



i am eagerly awaiting friday, as so i will be able to buy this handsome little device, i was just wondering, once the vanish has happened can you show both hands empty, On one of david blaines tv specials he shows his hands clean afterwards not before, can this be done without watching the dvd?

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Postby Stephen Ward » Mar 8th, '06, 16:19

Once you get your package you will spend time setting up correct for yourself. You can show hands empty afterwards. This effect is really one of confidence and practise. The few problems people have with it should be well discussed here. So it may be worth going through the thread(s) and taking notes or even printing sections out. This combined with the instructions should give you a firm grounding in the gimmick.
Hope that helps and enjoy the practise.

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Postby EckoZero » Mar 23rd, '06, 03:13

Got one of these the other day.
I have to say I am impressed. Yeah it takes a while to set up (Mine took me nearly an hour because I kept getting something wrong :( ) but it's well worth the effort.

People say you need to practice a lot to get it perfect but I found that about half an hour of practicing on my hand and the table let me do it well enough to fool my dad (and not one of my tricks has EVER fooled my dad v.v) and he was sitting and I was standing so could have had a slight view of what was going on.

I also haven't found the problem of knives forks etc. But that might be because I have mine set up in the sleeves of a leather jacket.
I always wear a leather jacket and never wear a button up shirt, so it makes it seem more natural for me, but I guess you just have to go with what seems right for you.

Overall I'd say it's a pretty good trick.
I haven't got the DVD so i don't know all the tricks that can be done with it, but I've managed to come up with a few of my own already so all that limits you is your imagination really.

Slightly pricey, but once you're good, the reactions you get can pay for it nicely :D

Oh one final point. People say about the telltale "clink"... I found that when I first practiced, because I was using a new style 2p coin ( a"compatible" one, you all know what i mean) but when I figured it was because a 2p is so thick and heavy, I tried with a 1p and have had no problems since. So just try around with different objects really. I've disapeared screws, keys, coins, rings... just play around till you work out whats best for you

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Postby Sky321 » Apr 19th, '06, 19:47

Can it pick up any coins? which is better the Raven 1 or 2?

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Postby leighton » Apr 19th, '06, 20:01

I have the RavenX2 and did not like it when I first got it, but I have since got a new jacket and it works a treat. I changed a £1 coin into a 5p and my son's eyes popped out his head. I am still having trouble with the "Key Bend" though.

Sky, it will work with 1p and 2p coins made after 1998' ish or any special coin from the special shop :wink:

Dunno which is better 1 or 2, it would depend on what you wish to achieve, straight forward vanish or changing, as Ecko said you are limited by your imagaination

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Postby xtrememini » Apr 20th, '06, 17:51

i bought the Raven X2 yesterday and took it to Work (in a bar) and ended up getting very attached to the Bar top! was quiet funny and thank god nobody saw!

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Postby MiniMindFreak » Jun 8th, '06, 17:37

should I buy the raven or is it not that good any more?

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 8th, '06, 17:43

The raven is still a great effect. Saying that i don't use mine now and there are better ways without the need for all this stuff.

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Postby MiniMindFreak » Jun 8th, '06, 18:11

like ?

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Postby DW » Jun 8th, '06, 20:08

Good old fashioned sleight of hand! :D

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Postby Stephen Ward » Jun 8th, '06, 20:12

Yes, yes and another yes. So much better :wink:

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Postby AJ82 » Jun 8th, '06, 20:21

I have a raven and to be honest I have never used it. Don't know why, guess I just could not get my head round it. :oops:

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Postby seymourmagic » Nov 14th, '07, 16:05

I love my raven and when I shrink a coin with it I then wrap the tiny coin in flash paper light it and whoof I produce a jumbo penny and say "penny for your thoughts" I also use it to do signed quarter thru glass table an amazing effect and easy if you own a raven it's been a real reputation builder for me. if you own one and want pointers on a better easier set up p.m. me the raven helps me with several effects and I never leave home without it. this one is worth any and all practice you put into it because it can make magic happen right before their eyes!! and they look shocked :shock: try sewing one in the sleeve of a suit jacket works great!

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Postby seymourmagic » Nov 16th, '07, 00:52

I wassn't thrilled when I first got the raven mainly because of the set up. I made changes that best worked for me, I perform in a black and white tuxedo and I wear a black suit jacket, for me the best solution for the smoothest operation was to sew my raven in the cuff of my jackets sleeve. when doing the magical wave your hand naturally ends up being close to your body you can turn your hand over after the wave to show it empty. the original coin is concealed well and with this type set up you can push up the sleeve before and after to show
"nothing up my sleeves" when doing this after the vanish or change as you push up your sleeve you retrieve the original coin unnoticed. this made all the difference in the world to me and for my opinion of the raven. I also bought a pk quarter to go with mine this allows me to do the signed quarter thru glass table effect. I have them sign one side of the coin and I sign the other side . The coin goes on top a glass table with my signed side face up they assume their sign is on the back side of same coin NOT lol their signed coin is in back finger palm of your other hand the one you put under the table to catch the coin as it melts thru the glass.you will be able to get it that way as you are singning your side.. you do sign it,then back finger palm it and show the duplicate "raven compatible coin" with your sign (that was put on it ahead of time) .it takes a little practice to work out the handling but it's so worth it. Your raven will take care of vanishing the coin they saw on top and as you do the wave vanish you bring their coin to your palm in the hand thats below the table to reveal the coin you both signed has past thru solid glass.looks like real magic!! I so much agree with the previous comment about the tricks all work but can YOU make them work for YOU in this case I was able to and am very happy with it. Perhaps if your one of the ones that hates the set up and workings of the raven you might just try sewing one in a jacket sleeve and see what you think of it that way. many times I have come back to something I laid aside for awhile and got way more enjoyment out of it the second time around. hope something I said here will be benificial to some. I'm off to practice but my cat looks so comfortable sleeping on my magic table oh well she's got to move now. lol

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Postby AlvinLuo » Nov 25th, '07, 23:10

Is this The Raven Raven X2 or X1?

May I know what is the difference between x1 or x2?

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