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Hey forum.

Okay, I'm normally not a fan of performing ANY routine popularised by TV Magicians. I actually hate it when I have long noted an effect on my `wish-list` only to find out dynamo has gone and used it and now performing it would seemingly decrease me to a dynamo-wanna-be in layman's eyes.

However, I'm a huge fan of Derren's "Ability" to always determine which hand someone is holding a coin in. I think it'll make a great impromptu effect.

I'm unsure of the exact way he accomplishes this..and of course.. I'm not looking for exposure. Actually I have my own theory of a possible method.

My simple idea is to combine a PK c-in with a PK r-ng. With the spectator holding it in his/her fist, I know I would be able to quickly `feel` where the coin was..However, in this brief moment, do you think a layman would notice the brief...sudden heaviness...of the coin?

Hoping for some valuable feedback.
Thanks a lot!
Danny Jay.

Hugo Shelley makes a product that would make this possible without any risk of a spec noticing movement. I've not used it but have heard good things about it. It's almost as if you had a sixth sense.

Ian

Thanks for the response isb, haven't heard of hugo's work before but I'll definitely look into it!

sent you a PM

A PK Ring & Coin wouldn't work through the closed fist. I've had years of experience using various methods & routines including Zurcon (the problem being it used 2 un-natural looking items) & it risked people seeing the gimmick, also tried the PK Ring with the Zurcon paperweight (Roger Curzon) which helped with it looking more natural from the performers hand but still used one of the odd proppy items. I plumped for Sixth Sense 2 years ago & loved it from the beginning, I now have Sixth Sense 2.5 (I think that’s the right number) which when used with the magnetic coin (sold separately by the same website you can get SS from) can now tell you if it’s heads or tails.

Great item, worth the money if you’re a performer but it’s not gimmickless or impromptu.

Russ

Outlaw Products 'The Relic' does actually work through a closed fist and, if I remember right, you can also tell whether the coin is heads up or tails up.

no ones mentioned a fmt2 which I now own.

mmm a 3d printer and a n42....... lots of possibilities for objects with embedded attractions.

Erm sorry, what's a fmt2 or is that exposure?

Have words with Tomo and he'll tell all!

I've been pondering something to give me this ability for a while, though I've never fancied the which hand is the coin in presentation...largely because, as the title implies, a lot of folk see it as what derren does...I've only recently come across afew more original uses. Price still rules most of them out though, at least while it's just for curiosity.

kartoffelngeist wrote: a lot of folk see it as what derren does...

This is quite a common problem. Anything which is included in a TV show by Derren, Dynamo or Blaine is likely to have been seen and remembered by some of your audience so it can seem as though you're just copying. Personally if I have, or buy, an effect which is given TV coverage, then it goes in the drawer for at least 12 months to give the spec memories time to fade. Even then the presentation and back story (if any) has to be radically different. Even then it may still be risky - moons ago I prepared Oz Perlman's 21st Century Phantom for a performance, safe, or so I thought, in the knowledge that it had been a while since anyone performed it. Halfway through my slick and professional (!) presentation, a guy said out loud, 'Oh I saw this on telly last night, it's Elvis Presley'. Fortunately I'd stuck with the original idea and 'it' was John Travolta so i was able to confound the guy as well as the rest of them but it was a close thing! I'd recorded the TV show in question and watched it as soon as I got home and the reveal was indeed Elvis - if only I'd watched the bloody show live!!!!