My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Come and let everyone know a little about yourselves

Moderators: nickj, Lady of Mystery, Mandrake, bananafish, support

Dude That's Cool Magic Web Design for Magicians UK's Online Magic Tricks and Jokes Shop offers kids and beginner magic tricks and jokes. Best prices around! Visit Magicbox for all the latest and best effects! A web site set up to sell my book, THE STRIPPER DECK, and future magical/mentalism titles.

My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Postby SeeNoEvil » Jan 7th, '18, 12:51



I'm not a magician as such, but a love of Magic tricks as a child, lead me on to special effects, and film & TV special effects is what I now do for a living.

I inherited a cardboard box from my grandfather passed on from my mother about 6 years ago. It contained the some total of his father's (my great grandfather's) magic collection. For the most part, it's little magic tricks from around 1934 to the early 1950s, but only some of the material has dates on. So much of the paper material is falling apart now, but I'm storing it as best I can. As far as I can tell, the oldest thing in there is a wooden handled rubber stamp, with Arrowsmith on, dated 1892. As far as I recall, my great grandfather and his parents ran a shop, and this would have been passed on from that.

I remember playing with much of this stuff as a child, along with new magic tricks I bought at the time, which is why they were passed on to me. I also remember as a child in the 80's, buying some new tricks, which were virtually identical in technique, but updated versions of some of these. I specifically recall having the money maker roller trick which was made of red plastic, rather than the wooden one here, and a fake thumb cover with a handkerchief in it, which was rubber rather than metal, and of course the set of magic rings. It just goes to show, a good magic trick in the 1930's is still a good magic trick today. I did the Mystery Coin Box trick over Christmas for my Girlfriend's parents, along with catching them out with the fake box-camera with the springy snake inside!

When I was originally given the collection, they were just in a plain cardboard box. I wanted to finally give them a more fitting permanent home which I made just before Christmas; a wooden chest. Anyway I've taken photos of everything I have laid out, including all the paperwork. I've figured out what most of the stuff is over the years, but there is still about 20% or so, is either incomplete or unfathomable. Most of the stuff is magic related, but some items are exactly as they appear, like the pocket watches & pipe paraphernalia. Most of the paper material is ranging up to pretty tatty, so I'm keeping all that in a protective display book so I can still look through it easily. There is some stuff I know is missing, I have only two of the magic rings for instance.

There are a few items I'm hoping people might know what they are. The silver pieces of metal in front of the money maker roller on the top right. I think that the two silver halves go together and fit inside the shorter sleeve, and would spring apart on removal, but what that would be I have no idea. Maybe there is some part I'm missing. Also the three silver hip-flask bottle things on the far left above the ball puzzles. No idea what they might be either, or the square aluminium tube to the left of the pipe cleaners in the middle. Various misc bits & pieces look like they would fit nicely inside it, and that has some writing printed on it, but it's too faded to make out. Anyone any ideas?

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

SeeNoEvil
New User
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Jan 7th, '18, 12:31

Re: My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Postby Mandrake » Jan 8th, '18, 11:11

Hi, welcome to TM. I can't help with any info but that looks like a truly superb collection of stuff! If there's a magic club local to you they might be able to identify some of the mystery items. In any event they would probably relish the oportunity to see such old time magic.

User avatar
Mandrake
'
 
Posts: 27494
Joined: Apr 20th, '03, 21:00
Location: UK (74:AH)

Re: My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Postby SeeNoEvil » Jan 8th, '18, 19:15

If there's a magic club local to you they might be able to identify some of the mystery items. In any event they would probably relish the opportunity to see such old time magic.


I'm in Twickenham, London. How would I found out where my nearest Magic club is?

SeeNoEvil
New User
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Jan 7th, '18, 12:31

Re: My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Postby Mandrake » Jan 8th, '18, 20:19

Google is your friend in this respect, as I don't know that part of the globe I can't offer specific answers but you could start with https://lsmmagic.magicandweb.com/ and ask if they know of closer clubs to where you live. Alternatively ask the Magic Circle - see https://themagiccircle.co.uk/contact-us

Best of luck, let us know how you get on!!

User avatar
Mandrake
'
 
Posts: 27494
Joined: Apr 20th, '03, 21:00
Location: UK (74:AH)

Re: My Great Grandfather's Box of Tricks

Postby mr invisible » Jan 11th, '18, 17:12

SeeNoEvil wrote:I'm not a magician as such, but a love of Magic tricks as a child, lead me on to special effects, and film & TV special effects is what I now do for a living.

I inherited a cardboard box from my grandfather passed on from my mother about 6 years ago. It contained the some total of his father's (my great grandfather's) magic collection. For the most part, it's little magic tricks from around 1934 to the early 1950s, but only some of the material has dates on. So much of the paper material is falling apart now, but I'm storing it as best I can. As far as I can tell, the oldest thing in there is a wooden handled rubber stamp, with Arrowsmith on, dated 1892. As far as I recall, my great grandfather and his parents ran a shop, and this would have been passed on from that.

I remember playing with much of this stuff as a child, along with new magic tricks I bought at the time, which is why they were passed on to me. I also remember as a child in the 80's, buying some new tricks, which were virtually identical in technique, but updated versions of some of these. I specifically recall having the money maker roller trick which was made of red plastic, rather than the wooden one here, and a fake thumb cover with a handkerchief in it, which was rubber rather than metal, and of course the set of magic rings. It just goes to show, a good magic trick in the 1930's is still a good magic trick today. I did the Mystery Coin Box trick over Christmas for my Girlfriend's parents, along with catching them out with the fake box-camera with the springy snake inside!

When I was originally given the collection, they were just in a plain cardboard box. I wanted to finally give them a more fitting permanent home which I made just before Christmas; a wooden chest. Anyway I've taken photos of everything I have laid out, including all the paperwork. I've figured out what most of the stuff is over the years, but there is still about 20% or so, is either incomplete or unfathomable. Most of the stuff is magic related, but some items are exactly as they appear, like the pocket watches & pipe paraphernalia. Most of the paper material is ranging up to pretty tatty, so I'm keeping all that in a protective display book so I can still look through it easily. There is some stuff I know is missing, I have only two of the magic rings for instance.

There are a few items I'm hoping people might know what they are. The silver pieces of metal in front of the money maker roller on the top right. I think that the two silver halves go together and fit inside the shorter sleeve, and would spring apart on removal, but what that would be I have no idea. Maybe there is some part I'm missing. Also the three silver hip-flask bottle things on the far left above the ball puzzles. No idea what they might be either, or the square aluminium tube to the left of the pipe cleaners in the middle. Various misc bits & pieces look like they would fit nicely inside it, and that has some writing printed on it, but it's too faded to make out. Anyone any ideas?

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
Magnificent collection, here. Just wow !!!! :shock: Been waiting 20 years for something like this. 8)

MEMBER OF THE SHEFFIELD CIRCLE OF MAGICIANS.
Is magic really real ??
User avatar
mr invisible
Advanced Member
 
Posts: 1118
Joined: Feb 21st, '12, 17:05
Location: Belper, Derbyshire. [ 47-SH]


Return to Introductions

Aeternum Servare Secreta World-Of-Magic, Suppliers of quality Magic Worldwide Manufacturer of modern & unique magic apparatus! Playing Cards for Magicians Best prices around! Sorcery Shop - Home of the ITR MagicWorld Magic Shop for Magic Tricks

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests