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Postby ace of kev » Jan 5th, '06, 20:18



My performance of the Jazz Aces

What do you think?

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Postby the_mog » Jan 5th, '06, 21:50

Peter Kane would have been proud!.. even if you did use the darwin ortiz handling :twisted: nice show of the last ace though..liked that idea. the only thing wrong was the video kept stopping as it loaded the next bit which kinda annoyed me but other than that it was well done. I'd try and slow down the showing of the 4 black cards a bit..it looked rushed :wink:

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Postby ace of kev » Jan 5th, '06, 22:25

Thanks :D I didn't know who invented it, and my rubbish camera

Is the Peter Kane version the one that Rune did? If so, where could I learn it :lol:

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Postby Demitri » Jan 6th, '06, 11:17

Nicely done.

The first two Ace transpos were handled well. The elmsley was a bit loose, but a layman wouldn't notice.

I have a problem with the final transpo, though. You have the cards in hand, then picked up the tabled card, which is supposed to be the ace of clubs. However, you place it on top of the packet - and when you turn the cards over, it's now on the bottom. You then turn the packet over and table the top card. To me, this seemed incredibly obvious.

As mog said, it seemed a little rushed. However, since you didn't have sound, the lack of patter is what made the effect move faster. Great job! This is another favorite effect of mine.

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Postby Tomo » Jan 6th, '06, 12:45

Coo, I do like that.

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Postby the_mog » Jan 6th, '06, 15:57

Peter Kane is the guy who invented the routine.

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Postby ace of kev » Jan 7th, '06, 01:06

Demitri wrote:Nicely done.

The first two Ace transpos were handled well. The elmsley was a bit loose, but a layman wouldn't notice.

I have a problem with the final transpo, though. You have the cards in hand, then picked up the tabled card, which is supposed to be the ace of clubs. However, you place it on top of the packet - and when you turn the cards over, it's now on the bottom. You then turn the packet over and table the top card. To me, this seemed incredibly obvious.

As mog said, it seemed a little rushed. However, since you didn't have sound, the lack of patter is what made the effect move faster. Great job! This is another favorite effect of mine.


Emm..... Its not on the bottom :?

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Postby Demitri » Jan 7th, '06, 06:37

You pick up the final tabled card (which is supposed to be the final ace) and place it on top of the packet. Thus your spectator thinks "he put the ace on top of the packet"

You then turn the packet over and show the ace on the bottom of the packet. This is highly suspicious, as it doesn't make sense. (as is the massive break you hold while displaying the ace-but that's really the angle of the camera, not a flaw of technique).

I'm not knocking the actual vanish of the ace - that part was well done. I'm just saying the prep work is suspect. An alert spec will see this as incongruous. While it doesn't ruin the final revelation, it can create an air of doubt (most notably, a spec may think you're using more than one Ace of clubs).

Sorry if I wasn't clear on that.

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Postby ace of kev » Jan 7th, '06, 13:49

Yeh there was a big break and I should have made that smaller, but that is not what happens :lol:

You pick up the "Ace of Clubs" and do a DL, so it is not on the bottom :lol:

I say this is the is the ace of clubs, do the double, then place it over to the side.

It might have looked like that because of the angle and the rubbish camera, but that is what i did :lol:

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Edit: I just watched the video again, and it is the bad angle that makes it look like that :lol: Sorry :D

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Postby Demitri » Jan 9th, '06, 08:37

Oh, I see it now. From that angle it looked like you turned the packet over. My apologies.

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Postby ultimatecreate » Jan 9th, '06, 14:23

A nice performace - but ive always been sceptical of this trick, not being very commercial. A great trick to show other magicians, as you can really go to town with card skills and manipulations, colour changes etc. But in my experience to laymen, they do not appreciate it as much as many other tricks. Once theyve seen the ace change once, almost certainly twice they know exactely what to expect.

just a thought...

but nonetheless - a great presentation

Keep up the good work

Alex

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Postby ace of kev » Jan 9th, '06, 17:17

Demitri wrote:Oh, I see it now. From that angle it looked like you turned the packet over. My apologies.


Yeh it does look like that :lol: Next time I'll need to check my angles :D

A nice performace - but ive always been sceptical of this trick, not being very commercial. A great trick to show other magicians, as you can really go to town with card skills and manipulations, colour changes etc. But in my experience to laymen, they do not appreciate it as much as many other tricks. Once theyve seen the ace change once, almost certainly twice they know exactely what to expect.

just a thought...

but nonetheless - a great presentation

Keep up the good work

Alex


I usually get great reactions from this trick, but oh well :D

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Postby Demitri » Jan 9th, '06, 19:53

I do a variation of this effect, which stemmed from a John Guastaferro version, using Jacks.

Basically, I have the four jacks (or, in my patter "princes") who travel into the black forests to search for their fortune.

Naturally, the black spot cards are the "forest" And each prince disappears in the forest.

Throughout the routine, I don't show the jacks again - the card is laid down and the jack vanishes. My patter speaks of great battles and trials that the princes go through. In the end, I finish with 4 face down cards on the table.

The reaction is that the jacks are there - but as my kicker - I talk about how they won many battles, defeated armies, gained land and power - and in the end, those princes became Kings (4 tabled cards are turned over to show the four kings)

I prefer this to the typical Jazz Aces since it has a story suited to my tastes - and as ultimatecreate pointed out - this handling throws the people for a loop, since they expect to see the jacks, not the kings.

Once I buy my video camera (I got the $ for one for Xmas!!!) I'll try to video this. It's one of my favorite presentations.

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Postby ace of kev » Jan 9th, '06, 22:22

Cool, It sounds great :D Can't wait to see it :D

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