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Hey everyone. I'm 17 and an american. I've been practicing sponge sleight of hand since I was 9, and only this. Recently I've been doing the classic palm, and need some tips. I was palming it while holding the camera with the other hand, and I really couldn't get a good angle, but compared with the other hand, it looks better than the photo, and pretty good.

I can easily classic palm a coin with one hand, and put them in stacks of 3. I have pretty small hands, (I'm 17)

I"d like some tips please.

I hope its in the right position.

I've reviewed www.coinvanish.com, thanks everyone.


UPDATE:

Notice that in the pic where I turn my hand over, my hand is still cramped. Despite how cramped it looks, I can still make it look like my other hand while palming, and no one suspects anything. I can also easily thumb palm coins, this is fun and alot easier. When I pick up stuff with the palmed coin, it looks natural so people assume it's empty.

I still need to practice to make it flatter.

Like I said, I'm pretty new to coin magic, been doing sponge magic for years.

Just added my best one, its the first one.

Hope you guys like it.

Hey, you guys know that video on google of that guy flipping the coins, he says "John, I wanted to show you some takes and puts.. but I couldn't exactly do it in the hotel."

How does the man do that? I want to know the first part. It's so cool.

If I could do coin magic like that, that'd be awesome, because my coin across really doesn't excite people very much at all. Oh this video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... coin+magic


Yeah, that's the one.

I'd appreciate it if someone sent me the Bobo's book or bobo's video on how to do this for my birthday, my birthday is Feburary 13th,
, I'll be 18.

Hehehe.

Okay, I just updated it. My camera batteries are dead though, and don't have any new ones. If this one isn't right, can someone please maybe post a picture of their classic palm? Thanks. (There's nothing worse than practicing and getting it wrong then you gotta retrain everything)

Wow, these pics are really large!

I can't find my editing software....

If someone could downsize them, I'll edit these.

In the meantime, I'll try to find my editing software to downsize them. Sorry about this..

All I can advise is to be carefull of what could be considered as being exposure.

As the pics were far too large to view comfortably, they've been removed. If you can make sure that any relacements are not exposing anything and are smaller then you can perhaps try again.

If you can make sure that any relacements are not exposing anything...

I didn't get to see the photo's but if they are to do with the classic palm then I see no reason why they can't be shown, seeing as the classic palm is meant to be completely undetectable when being used.

I wrote an article a few months back for an online e-zine which talked about developing the muscles for the Classic Palm. The e-zine is in .pdf format which means you'll need Acrobat Reader to read it. Here's a link to the ezine; Top Hat Issue 41. The article is entitled "Squeeze it 'Till it Hurts".

I hope that's of some help.

GoldFish wrote:

If you can make sure that any relacements are not exposing anything...

I didn't get to see the photo's but if they are to do with the classic palm then I see no reason why they can't be shown, seeing as the classic palm is meant to be completely undetectable when being used.

I wrote an article a few months back for an online e-zine which talked about developing the muscles for the Classic Palm. The e-zine is in .pdf format which means you'll need Acrobat Reader to read it. Here's a link to the ezine; Top Hat Issue 41. The article is entitled "Squeeze it 'Till it Hurts".

I hope that's of some help.

It won't work, it says there's been an error and it can't decrypt it.

I have a squish ball, would that help me develop the muscle for it?

its a pdf file iv'e saved it for future reference thanxs.

by the way your palm looks fine to me.

Palm looks good to me but I think it might look a bit more natural if you relaxed your fingers a bit - they're not used in the palm so if you spread them a bit then the hand looks much emptier. Apart from that, looks good to me.

Kati

Obviously we all have different shaped hands, but for me the coin looks a little too far forward. Try moving it back towards the wrist.

First off, you _really_ need to relax your hand. A classic palm should not be flat, it should mimic the position of an empty hand. Have a look at how your hand looks at rest, and try to get the dirty hand to look like that.

As for the video clip - it sounded a lot like Greg Rostrami. After a quick look through I don't think the majority of the moves he uses are in Bobo. As for the book, however, if you are strapped for cash so much that you cannot buy a copy in the shops, Chris Wasshuber sells an e-book version for 8.50 dollars - go to www.lybrary.com for details.

Take care, Ian

Your thumb and little finger both need to be slightly bent to achieve a good hand shape.

But, more importantly, I think the coin is in the wrong spot. It should be nearer your wrist, not in the middle of your palm.

To get a more natural palm - use the muscle by your thumb and the muscle that runs down the side of your hand - not the one by your fingers as you seem to be doing. You'll find that you can then use yor hand quite naturally - ie. pick up things etc.
I found that by practicing the muscle pass or by trying to learn how to do it, I improved my classic palm dramatically. You may want to give that a try.
Also - relax a bit and perform for people more. You seem quite concerned about whether you have the right technique and how good you are (as percieved by us). Don't worry too much about these things. Technique is one part of magic - but a small part. The real stuff comes from performing in front of people - learning to interact, misdirect etc. - but most important - to entertain. Good luck

Peoples' biggest mistake is the fact they think the classic palm should be shown to be 'normal'. But it is almost impossible to palm without the hand looking obscure.

Much the same way a TT is hidden under the gesture of normal and inconspicuous hand positions, the classic palm should seem that nothing is amiss.

Relax the hand into a normal posture, no need to have all fingers straigtened out like pencils. Often, it's possible to classic palm a coin with almost no effort at all (after practice) whilst holding the hands naturally.

I think, judging by your photos, you are trying far too hard to hold the coin. May I also suggest you try a slightly smaller coin for practice, as it seems it's far to shallow a grip on the coin—a deeper grip is generally more desirable and cuts down on effort, ergo hand contortion.

Another minor tip would be to just walk around everyday life keeping a coin palmed... whilst shopping, walking or whatever. Don't make a big deal like "Hey, you haven't noticed I'm palming a coin!"... no, no, NO!
Keep the satisfaction to yourself!

This will let you casually feel the action rather than forcing it. You CAN'T expect these things to be perfect straight away.

Your coin does not look like it is quite where is should be. Try a half dollar and let it fall naturally into position with the palm up. Slowly turn the hand over and feel the coin settle into the palm.

toofar.jpg looks much better.

What you need to do now is bend your thumb and pinky to get a natural hand shape.

Also see how much you can relax your hand before the coin falls out - you'll be surprised how little tension is needed to hold a coin.
Remember - coins are very light. Treat them as such and your hand tension will reduce considerably.