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Postby Sky321 » Mar 16th, '06, 18:36



Why are they so quick to lock a topic? how can i learn to do some simple little tricks if no one will tell me how they are done? its not like its the world top secret is it? all i asked was how 2 little card tricks were done and they go and lock the topic seems a bit much to me

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Postby Stephen Ward » Mar 16th, '06, 18:38

Those are the rules and each member accepts those rules when they join Talk magic. Rules are clearly stated

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Re: why are mods so quick to lock a topic

Postby Tomo » Mar 16th, '06, 18:40

Sky321 wrote:Why are they so quick to lock a topic? how can i learn to do some simple little tricks if no one will tell me how they are done? its not like its the world top secret is it? all i asked was how 2 little card tricks were done and they go and lock the topic seems a bit much to me

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic9434.php

The forum rules state that no exposure of techniques can take place here. You can learn all you want (and plenty more besides) by buying a book or a DVD of tricks and practicing, not by asking for exposure. There are some very in-depth reviews here to help you choose. Demonstrate enough knowledge of magic and contribute some quality posts and you'll get an invite to the secrets area, where you can discuss techniques safe in the knowledge that you're only talking to other magicians who won't reveal your secrets :wink:

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Postby Sky321 » Mar 16th, '06, 19:25

So I guess if you’re a student with not much money there’s not much luck with anyone telling you on here a few simple card tricks without buying magic box sets and books? only want to know a few simple tricks I have a pack of cards that's it

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Postby the_mog » Mar 16th, '06, 19:38

you can buy books from around a fiver.. not much money really..even for a student

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Postby Tomo » Mar 16th, '06, 19:40

Sky321 wrote:So I guess if you’re a student with not much money there’s not much luck with anyone telling you on here a few simple card tricks without buying magic box sets and books? only want to know a few simple tricks I have a pack of cards that's it

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Sorry, but pleading poverty won't help. Go to the reviews section, pick a few books that look good, then go and order them from the library.

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Postby macos » Mar 16th, '06, 21:23

I agree, buy/borrow material from a friend/library. Finding out how something is done ain't that hard, but practicing the methods and learning to do them youself is much harder and takes time and effort.
Even if someone would reveal that "there he uses a finalcutcombospeciallift and there he is doing a doublespagetthiwhoppydoo with the card" that wouldn't say anything to you except what sleights to practice. It wouldn't say how the sleights themselves should be done, common mistakes, where to place your fingers and so on. But if you study magic (read/watch and practice)and learn the sleights then you can learn a totally new routine/trick just by watching someone doing it and recognizing the sleights!
My point:
-Someone TELLING you how the trick is done wouldnt make you able to do the trick and it wouldn't give you anything.
-Someone TEACHING you how to make the trick would make you able to do the trick after practicing.
...your choice but we're only gonna help you with the second option (recommending good teaching books/DVD's)
I hope I don't sound rude or aggressive here cause that's not what I wanted.
Oh and btw, you said you had a deck of cards, what cards are you using?

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Postby Sky321 » Mar 16th, '06, 21:36

Hello

The card's i have are a standard pack of playing cards, do you know if any good tricks can be done with standard cards or do i need magic cards? all i want is just a few very simple card tricks to show people i don’t want to be a magician or anything

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Postby Pitto » Mar 16th, '06, 22:44

Royal Road to Card MAgic is about a fiver ... its all sleights with normal cards it is often thought to be the begginer's book and a little more that that as well. Bobo's coin book is around a fiver and that is said to be the bible of coin magic there we go for less than £15 (i know 5+5 = 10 but they are both a bit more than i fiver) you have two of the best books in close up magic.

Also, why should everyone else pay to learn a trick and then just tell you how its done?

RRTCM http://www.magicbox.uk.com/exec.php/pro ... il/00270// (its cheaper in other place, waterstones for example is where I got mine)

Bobo's book
http://www.penguinmagic.com/europe/product.php?ID=535

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Postby Mandrake » Mar 16th, '06, 23:42

Karl Fulves does some nice card books, many of the tricks are self working and they don't cost much either. Dover Publications produce these books and they should be available from most online sites or real book stores.

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Postby Tomo » Mar 16th, '06, 23:51

Sky321 wrote:The card's i have are a standard pack of playing cards, do you know if any good tricks can be done with standard cards or do i need magic cards? all i want is just a few very simple card tricks to show people i don’t want to be a magician or anything

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Yes, you can do pretty much anything you want with the cards you have. You just have to do one tiny thing yourself: go to the library. Please.

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Postby Sky321 » Mar 17th, '06, 01:00

Tomo

Sorry i guess i miss the whole point of this fourm because i am sure it was to help others learn magic but guess i got it all wrong

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Postby Stephen Ward » Mar 17th, '06, 01:10

Helping people is fine. We are happy to offer advice but not the mechanics of the tricks. What really makes us angry is when people register and their first post asks 'how is this done'. People of all ages and all abilities get along on here fine. The reason is that we all understand and respect the rules.
There are many cheap books out there and you can borrow books as well. If you would like to learn some simple tricks then any search engine on the web would reveal that information but we do not do that sort of thing.
Hey, this is my first ever rant! sorry all :oops:

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Postby Tomo » Mar 17th, '06, 01:13

Sky321 wrote:Tomo

Sorry i guess i miss the whole point of this fourm because i am sure it was to help others learn magic but guess i got it all wrong

Well, look at the archive and think about what you're asking for. We're telling you where to get what you need and making it easy for you to do that by telling you where to get it. What no one will do is sit and spoon feed a lazy bones with secrets that have taken a long time to accumulate.

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Postby Sky321 » Mar 17th, '06, 01:53

WOW never new it was going to cause such a big problem me asking to learn a few very simple card tricks like i said i am not asking for you to tell me the world’s best tricks just a few simple tricks that’s it. i have found a site that has a few tricks on it i read it but don’t understand how to do it so getting someone else to walk me thru that trick is that wrong? why not share all magic with others? there's loads of programs on TV that show you how they do all the big magic don’t see anyone talking about banning that because its telling the world how its done. well when i find out some tricks i am going to share it with others why be selfish with it? share it and help others out that are just starting

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