talkmagic.co.uk

Gochos The Greek wrote:Steverino the Wizard Pk Rings are nickel coated. It has nothing to do with the thickness of the coating that causes the allergy to happen. Unfortunately its the individual person makeup that is at fault here. Some people have a reaction with nickel, some with gold some with silver. So if you change the coating on the ring, someone else will surface that didn’t have a reaction with the nickel but with the new coating.

Also you cannot coat the Ring with whatever coating you feel like. It has to be tested to see if it adheres to the magnet and also the finish looks clean. Its much more complex than deciding to create the Wizard PK Ring and in two weeks its in the shops. Their is a whole Science behind the design, manufacture and coating of the ring.

I understand there's a nickel coating on it, and that's what causes the problem. Most raw neodymiums have a coating (usually nickel) put on them, apparently in order to reduce damage by chipping when they come into contact with each other, or hard objects.

I was speculating that if they can electroplate nickel onto them, then it's probably possible to do the same with other metals, or even apply a new coating over the nickel, to prevent it contacting the skin. The thickness of the over-coating would presumably be a factor in whether it prevented the skin reaction, and how quickly the coating wore through with use.

Steverino...

The nickel coating put on neo's is actually less to do with chipping prevention, and more to do with moisture repelling.

You see, a Neo magnet contains iron, which, when exposed to water, will rust. So, to seal in the iron, a plating or epoxy coating is applied to keep the neo from rusting.

The WizardPK ring has been extensively researched, tested, and experimented with. The coatings which are on the ring now are pretty high quality—and as with ANY jewellery, the metals WILL inevitably cause reactions for some, and not others.

I've talked to the manufacturers of the ring in great detail, and trust me, to get the ring even this far in terms of 'user compatibility' has been a quest.

It is a fact of life that some people can't wear certain metals as jewellery. I had a silver necklace for my 21st birthday, which caused me to turn green around my neck, and yet I wear my silver PK ring all day, every day, with no problem.

Every person's DNA/Chemistry is different, and to cater for everyone in the population would be seriously tedious, and pretty much impossible.

The nail varnish trick is the best bet. Mrs Seige was bought a Tiffany ring for Xmas a couple of years back, and was so upset that it caused her to react. But she did the clear nail varnish trick and it's sorted. End of.

Fair enough. I'm no expert on chemistry or jewellery, it just seems odd to me that a ring would be coated with a metal that is the most common in causing allergic reactions (nickel) for reasons other than cost.

I understood that this must have been done for a reason, but assumed that the reason was an issue of cost and familiarity of manufacture (ie. most neos are already produced coated like that). I t seems I was wrong.

If the nail varnish thing works then great

i am a teenager with very small fingers (55mm circumference)-will the smallest pk ring fit me?

You need the diameter not circumfrance. Cant remember how you work out the diameter from circumfrance (is it half?).

the smallest one is 19mm in diameter - click on the advert on the bottom of the page

just worked it out for you

diameter = 5.5cm x 3.14
= 17.5mm

so the small one might be a little too big for you

cool thanks very much-ill get one when i have grown more!!!!

I know this is an old thread but I had a big problem with my PK ring last night as I was doing some close up at a wedding. Seige mentioned at the beginning that these rings are not malleable (cannot be bent or streched) and last night I found this out to my cost. I accidently banged my hand against the table at which I was working and the ring shattered into 5/6 pieces!!! I hadn't realised how brittle they were. Has anyone else had this problem? Perhaps my ring had a defect? - I just don't know at this moment.

Lownatic wrote: the ring shattered into 5/6 pieces!!! I hadn't realised how brittle they were. Has anyone else had this problem? .

They are brittle - mine smashed into 3 pieces but I rang the company who supplied it & they replaced it free of charge

Thanks Kevin, I'll ring them on Tues, and hope I get the same response that you did.
By the way does anyone know if its worth upgrading to the G2 version. Is it stronger(magnetically) or better looking? Has anyone had both and can compare. If I've got to replace I might as well get the best available.

I got my silver G2 ring the other day from The Merchant of Magic. It comes in the following diameter sizes: 16mm, 17mm, 18mm, 19mm, 20mm, 21mm, 23mm and 25mm, so should fit most fingers. Apparently, it differs from its predecessor in that it is more powerful and comes in a "traditional shape".

I have not had a chance to test it properly yet but first impressions are good; it seems fairly powerful for its size and it looks just like my wedding band. I have not owned a PK ring before so cannot compare it to the original ring. I also purchased the Wizard PK ring DVD, which gives me some ideas on how to utilise this clever gimmick (albeit with low budget production values).

My cheapo PK Ring broke last week, another casualty of slapping a hand down on table a tad too hard. I now have a nice two-piece ring but I'm sure the two halves can be used for gaffing something!

Well!

I actually WROTE and PRODUCED the Wizard PK instructions, and I made it perfectly clear in them that the rings were fragile.

However, after extensive testing on rings that were returned to me because they'd tarnished (replaced free of charge, of course!) I tried to break them.

The only way I could get them to shatter was to REALLY give them some welly.

Neo magnets ARE fragile. They are NOT solid metal, as some people assume. They are actually formed from powders which are solidified, and as such, they are brittle. They DO break easily, and they WILL break if subjected to rapid stress—i.e. slamming them down on a hard surface.

The advice basically is, treat the ring with a bit of care

Thats excellent advice. When I get my replacement I shall not be wearing it 24/7 as some guys imply that they do. It will be strictly performance only.

I own a PK ring but do not really use it. I think I would get more use out of one that looked like the one Cyril wears, it is silver and kind of celtic looking in design, not your typical wedding band style. I also hate the 'Clink' sound it makes when objects hit it. Any suggestions?