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ok ok, this is a little errr....self centred

Postby Tone » Jul 17th, '06, 09:19



over the weekend it all came together with my classic pass....

last night i showed the better half and she bought it... pick a card any card etc.... and there it was...back on the top.

isn't it great when practice finally shows!

this is just a pat on my back as im happy with myself...

hehehe sorry :oops:

so why is this in the support forum....

well i need to get some new cards now... seem to have beaten up the 2 decks i have... anyone recommend a really snazzy deck?

tony

p.s. will get a vid soon and you can see how bad it is... ;)

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Postby seige » Jul 17th, '06, 09:35

Tony

For a really 'nice' deck, I recommend you don't go toooooo snazzy... perhaps just regular Bicycles, Tally Ho's or somesuch, which have brilliant handling.

Some of the newer novelty decks—the oranges, yellows and reds, are GREAT for Jeff McBride style fans and flourishes, but when doing any card magic whose effect lies in the skill of the magician (such as your commentable classic pass) I think it's much better to use 'normal' looking cards, or cards which are as familiar to the spectator as possible.

Using brash, colourful or odd looking cards can dilute the skill of your effect, and your efforts, as many laypeople suspect that cards which don't look like the norm are potentially gaffed or 'special' in some way.

That's why I wrote BlackDeckMagic—to give justification to using Black Tigers, and is also why I am in the process of collating contributions for the upcoming Ghost[deck]Stories, to give justification to the Ghost deck.

Now you've learned how to perform your sought-after sleight, you should invest in a nice deck of cards. Bicycle 808's handle great, Tally Ho's too.

And they are in a price range which you can afford to use them and bin them, as opposed to some of the 'creme de la creme' decks out there which can cost upwards of £20 (Gerry's Nuggets or Tahoes, for e.g.) because they're out of print and a little bit rare.

Focus on easy to get hold of brands, and as you practice, stick with a brand you're comfortable with. Many of them have much different qualities—thicker board, stiffer feel, different coatings. Some are better for fanning, some are better for sleights.

But, as a solid start, Bicycle 808s are definately recommended as they're easy to get hold of, cheap, and pretty much the definitive card used by a majority of magicians.

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Postby IAIN » Jul 17th, '06, 09:51

waddingtons, tally-ho's and the bikes...i've personally gone off bike-brands..but they are fantastic to practice with and as siege says, nice and cheap too...

by the way, dont bin your old ones, use them for torn n restored/mercury card folds/witchcraft rising cards and so on....

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Postby Tone » Jul 17th, '06, 10:37

Thanks for the fantastic replies!

I had not thought about the fancy looking deck arousing suspicion, makes a lot of sense.

Its funny, the pass is something that I have shown more commitment to than any other trick. I don’t know maybe it is because it is something that I have always looked at and thought “how on earth did they do that”

I only started about a month ago, and started to practice my pass maybe three weeks ago, but this stuff is SO addictive!

Thanks again for your support !

Tony 

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Postby Tomo » Jul 17th, '06, 10:44

seige wrote:For a really 'nice' deck, I recommend you don't go toooooo snazzy... perhaps just regular Bicycles, Tally Ho's or somesuch, which have brilliant handling.

I really like the Tally Ho Globe backs. They look, well, "magical"!

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Postby IAIN » Jul 17th, '06, 10:58

yeah, they are lovely....i've got a viper set on my desk at work at the moment actually..

im quite fond of the Kems paisley bridge set too, a little more unusual, but fits in well with what i do...

...and currently, i really like the gilded edged aladdin decks..got a slight victorian feel to them...I'm very tempted to start a nice collection of them y'know...my oddest deck is a charles baudelaire inspired set, shame the card stock is too cardboard-y though...

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