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Postby Lord Freddie » Jul 6th, '07, 11:35



Yes, these days it appears there is either chav or goth.

It's like some corporate 'trendmonger' has decreed that these two bland
caricutures are the only ones available to young people today.

Just because baseball caps and sportswear and trying to act like you're from Harlem is 'the culture of today' doesn't mean it's good or right.
Public stonings were once the culture of the day, as suicide bombers are now.

With their baseball caps and hoodies, most teenagers are generic and indistinguishable. How do they tell each other apart?

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Postby Rob » Jul 6th, '07, 11:37

Lord Freddie wrote:With their baseball caps and hoodies, most teenagers are generic and indistinguishable. How do they tell each other apart?


I think they all smell slightly-different....or something :wink:

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Postby Wills » Jul 6th, '07, 11:40

Lady of Mystery wrote:Any way, I quite happen to like the Simpsons, it makes me laugh.

The worst one is when my mum uses txt speak in her messages to me, this is one I got earlier today

'Wha tme r u comin rnd 4 t 2nite?'

What is that suposed to mean???


Your mum sent me that as well and I knew exactly what it meant :P

Only joking, anyway who was giving of about the Simpsons, I thought it was text speak everyone was complaining about? I've seen the Simpsons that many times I could act in many of the episodes (or provide the voice :D )

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Postby Tomo » Jul 6th, '07, 11:41

themagicwand wrote:Personally I miss all the mods & rockers & hippies & punks & goths & rockabillies etc. etc. Young folk in ye olden times used to put so much effort and thought into what they wore. These days (with a few rare exceptions) it seems that sports casual wear or a hoodie is as exciting as it gets. What happened?

Here here!

Too much sports gear just looks somehow unfortunate, as if the clothes have been donated and they've got no option but to wear it all.

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Postby themagicwand » Jul 6th, '07, 11:43

Ha ha! I know I sound like an old fart (and indeed I am), but I can remember the days before hair gel. To get our hair to stick up punk style we used a suger and water mixture! Or alternatively it was soap rubbed thickly onto the hands and rubbed through the hair. The soap thing was a nightmare when it rained though. You'd suddenly see bubbles floating around you and a stinging sensation in your eyes. Damn it was hard work to look so good! :wink:

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Postby Marvell » Jul 6th, '07, 11:44

themagicwand wrote:These days (with a few rare exceptions) it seems that sports casual wear or a hoodie is as exciting as it gets.

Lord Freddie wrote:Yes, these days it appears there is either chav or goth.

You've not really noticed the Emo Kid culture then? Or the skate/surf culture. Even chavs make an effort to choose Berbury (sp?).

You're unfortunately showing your age and sounding like Grumpy Old Men.

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Postby Marvell » Jul 6th, '07, 11:49

Mikey.666 wrote:People of all age talk like that through MSN and TXTing. It's just easier, once you get used to it.

The former is a conversational protocol and because people can't type too fast, they tend to use short cuts, abbreviation and acronyms. The motivation for shortening words for texts is based on the fact that there is a character limit and exceeding that incurs extra cost. Both of these are acceptable, so long as people "know what you mean".

However ...

One can take as long as one likes to compose a post on here and it has a wider audience, who are less likely to "know what you mean" if you don't use English.

On a technical note, Google is not going to translate it for searching, but then key words are less likely to be bastardised.

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Postby Lord Freddie » Jul 6th, '07, 12:05

Marvell wrote:
themagicwand wrote:These days (with a few rare exceptions) it seems that sports casual wear or a hoodie is as exciting as it gets.

Lord Freddie wrote:Yes, these days it appears there is either chav or goth.

You've not really noticed the Emo Kid culture then? Or the skate/surf culture. Even chavs make an effort to choose Berbury (sp?).

You're unfortunately showing your age and sounding like Grumpy Old Men.


These Emo kids or whatnot are just goths with skateboards.
An old fart I may be, but today's culture make the punks of the late 70's
look sophisticated. The other awful speech 'defect' picked up from awful US films is the word 'like' after every other bloomin' word.
Wost of all is when, mainly females, say "It was like.... (pause)... Oh my god!"

Make them watch Terry-Thomas films until they say 'Hard cheese!' in a natural manner, I say.

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Postby themagicwand » Jul 6th, '07, 12:15

Marvell wrote:
You're unfortunately showing your age and sounding like Grumpy Old Men.

That's exactly what I am. I don't deny it. The whole world's going to hell in a hand-basket!

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jul 6th, '07, 12:17

But like, Lord Freddie, oh my god you are just SO behind the times :D

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Postby Tomo » Jul 6th, '07, 12:48

Marvell wrote:You're unfortunately showing your age and sounding like Grumpy Old Men.

Yeah, well, in the olden days, youth used to rebel against authority and society with a purpose and a direction, and music and fashion were rallying points for that rebellion. Nowadays, youth just seems to want to be seen to have the right hair/board/phone/trainers so it can pretend to be in any of a stream of generic, anodyne boy/girl bands. They've been got at by the marketing people. We had slogans such as "Fight war not wars, destroy power not people", "Class War" and the delightful "Smash the state!". What is it today?

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Postby Marvell » Jul 6th, '07, 12:50

Lady of Mystery wrote:But like, Lord Freddie, oh my god you are just SO behind the times :D

And if you heard that, she upspoke at the end.

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Postby greedoniz » Jul 6th, '07, 12:51

Generation Apathy I think the youth of today have been coined. As Tomo said whatever happened to youths being radical and 'Fighting the Man'.

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Postby Lord Freddie » Jul 6th, '07, 12:56

Marvell wrote:
Lady of Mystery wrote:But like, Lord Freddie, oh my god you are just SO behind the times :D

And if you heard that, she upspoke at the end.


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Postby I.D » Jul 6th, '07, 13:00

I often spell incorrectly due to me typing without looking at the screen, and then spend the next five minutes editing my sentences.

However, I cannot stand the way a lot of youth speak. I used to get texts from people my own age and older even with ' listn ye, you got some dollars u can lend me 2nite and dat cuz i iz bruk man like i ent got nuffin till payday get me dow. ' I never reply to people that can't make the effort to speak properly.

What I find quite disturbing is that so much time is spent speaking in slang, people often forget how to spell real words... then you find yourself being asked how to spell words like, youth.. for instance, as people are used to spelling it as 'yoof' or other spine shivering examples like these.

Its in conversations like these that I think that 'txt msging' was the worst invention of modern times.

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