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Anybody can help how t oturnover or lift cards as one when you are having more than three.I need to hide the thikness of card(s).Generally I use to cover with fingers(mostly Biddle Grip) but anybody can judge the thikness and that will kill the trick.I have not found any tips on it.

Some of the tricks by Larry Jennings or The Card Puzzle from Ultimate Secrets of Card Magic by Dai Vernon raelly need this kind of turn but there is nothing about it.

Make the card flip very rapid, and nobody will notice the thickness of the card.

Also, if you hold the card by its ends, and bend it a little, it appears as though you are holding less cards.

Misdirection.

Turning the cards over 'Rapidly' will look suspicious (bad move, Michael).

Being SMOOTH and getting a small misdirection is far more important.

I agree with Seige, with the right misdirection you could flip the table over, never mind a few cards

Schwen wrote:I agree with Seige, with the right misdirection you could flip the table over, never mind a few cards

Now that could be fun!

It's a common mistake of the 'wet behind the ears' magician to RUSH or HURRY a move in the hope that it will go unnoticed or be camouflaged in some way. It's horrible advice.

Misdirection is fundamental. And it's one of the hardest magic skills to learn, if you're going to do it well and naturally. Which is probably why most people fail—because it requires effort.

There's no REAL secret into triples/quads etc. Personally, I just treat a triple lift exactly the same as a double, and just do it naturally. Same with a quad.

Practice and refine your DL until it's fluent, and you will get more confidence with more cards.

And patter..

Your patter can have inbuilt misdirection.. for instance.. when you ask a question, your audience will look at you, or be distracted mentally while they think of the answer, casually do you triple lift, and they wont be focusing on your hands.. more on what you said, or on what they need to do or say next.

For more than three cards, I be careful over angle the face towards them, talk to their face, not to the cards and quite often place the packet on top of the deck, thus blending its thickness with the deck itself. This frees up the right hand to gesture whilst talking.

i stare at the cards, and blink very slowly, then cough loudly and quickly flip them over, hopefully with the third card coming out by accident...

nah...i practice this way, ace through to four on top, practise each lift at random, triple, then single, then four, then two etc...until all four look and are turned the same...

then when with someone, just make eye contact and smile as you ask them a question...simple...on martin breese's site, he's written a nice long page on the subject...read it...

http://www.martinbreese.com/thoughts1.htm

Thanks all for your advices.Misdirection is the key in Magic but same time showing a cards in Biddle grip holding seven cards as three then showing one by one(last card(s) droped in on top)...what kind of misdirection you will use while you are pointing on your hands...Yes I am reffering the Twenty Doller Manuscript or the Card puzzle trick.

ah...then i'd say it's just an angle issue, and acting nonchalantly as you drop the final set...dont know the actual effect you mention though..sorry...

Seige,

You are quite correct.

ID,

You are wrong.

The DL does not requre any missdirection or cover if done correctly. I point to the cards and have them look as I turn over 1, 2 or 3 cards under their nose. If you have to conceal a DL you ain't got it right.

Surely, it would only ever be wrong to mask a sleight with unnecessary misdirection if it dissuaded from the apparent fairness of the action or had some other negative impact on the effect.

If you are using misdirection, make sure the deck is at a top view from the spectator's point of view. When you've made a quad lift, or 24 card lift (most likely wouldn't work...), make it outjogged or injogged slightly so that it's not aligned with the deck. This makes the spectator feel as though it actually is the top card.

Have fun!

Steve

Can we just clarify, misdirection in this context is not:

"Look, behind you, a green polkadot elephant"

Misdirection in magic has many guises. What I am talking about here is taking the heat of the deck for a moment. This can be done as subtly as not looking at the deck yourself, and looking up at the spectators.