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I don't think I will ever try McGimmick, because I will look like an idiot asking the McDonald's worker to make the gimmick for me.

I have not tried G-M-M yet, but I will take a look sometime today!

Anyone have any favourite effects?

magicmonkey wrote:Mcgimmick....I sorely want to try that one and nearly have a few times, but for some reason always bottle it whenever I have just bought the neccessary.

Did you ever try out Gambler vs mentalist versus magician? A nice twist on an old effect and really quite easy to pull off.

I dont own Art of Astonishment too magiciany for my likes. There I ve said it. Us mentalist types rave about books with latin names. Anyhoot I ve seen Monkey and Greedo do some really nice stuff from Art of Astonishment one of them being Gambler vs mentalist vs magician. Plus a very nice coins across.

Allthough the "Million Dollar Mindreader- Menatlism doesn't get much more personal or powerful. " I bet I could do something with a folded bit of paper or an esp deck that would be.

When I was magiciany magician rather then a billet folder I thought a lot about Art of Astonishment there is some cracking stuff in them from what I gather.

I think this is a good thread by mike...
I often find myself realising that a trick i use isnt great, and have to go back to the books and page through all the tricks to find a good one to work on... however you pick what suits you, and the tricks found in books is just a guideline for tricks,
Ex. I use the absolutely genius trick Insidious Dr. Fu Lui Tu from RRTCM, but the only thing from the trick i use is the joker with korean written on the back...
I learned early on that someone cant just tell you what a good trick is, To a layperson, a very simple card trick like Poker Player's Picknick can have more of an effect than an expensive, wild trick like Cardiograph.
just remember that.

Anyone here use Machine Gun Aces? A great effect, which I have my own presentation for.

I tell the audience about an effect created by Fat Pauly, one of the greatest magicians of all time.... although, he was also a mobster. He said if any spectator ever screws up his trick, they would have to die.

I then have them select a card, lose it in the deck, then say "Remember what Fat Pauly said: 'You mess up on re-finding you card, you're dead' so be careful here"

I then riffle the side of the deck, asking them to say stop, and BE CAREFUL, because if they do not re-find it, it is their life. The spectator fails, so I have a look of disappointmant on my face, I apologize for having to do what Pauly said, and I use the wrong card gto transform the deck into a hand gun. "Lock and load" I say as I shoot a "bullet" right at the spectator.

This "bullet is in fact a card that was shot out of the gun's barrel, spinning toward the spectator at high speed. The bullet card is, or course, the selected card.

What do you think?

Are you talking about a hand gun that appears to be real and actually shoots the card at the spec? At "high speed?"

No, you can't be that dense, can you?

If, in fact, that is what you're suggesting, then let us know how you get on with the various law suits when you put someone's eye out, will ya?

Mike.

Michael Jay wrote:Are you talking about a hand gun that appears to be real and actually shoots the card at the spec? At "high speed?"

No, you can't be that dense, can you?

If, in fact, that is what you're suggesting, then let us know how you get on with the various law suits when you put someone's eye out, will ya?

Mike.

Not "high speed" perse, but it goes as fast as any "Long Distance Shooter" card.

Gads...You really are that dense.

Have you ever considered in this presentation, talking about Fat Pauly and the mob killing people, that you might actually offend someone.

Now, understand me, I don't really care who gets offended by what. I think everyone should be offended at least once a day. But, as a magician, I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, you should stay away from a what could possibly be an offensive thing...

And, didn't your parents ever teach you to never point a gun at someone - not even a toy gun? My parents did...

I also have reservations about you doing a routine wherein you talk about having to kill your spectator. Maybe I'm just not the guy to ask, but if some cheeky 14 year old that looked exactly like you told me that he was going to kill me, I would be on the floor laughing in derision, disgust and disdain.

I'm sorry to be this blunt, but take a look at yourself in the mirror and have a good, long look. Can you imagine that kid telling anyone that he's going to have to kill them? And then, he produces a hand gun? How many kids do you read about going off the deep end and shooting places up? Probably a lot.

No, Mike, you really need to start using your brain...

Mike.

Michael Jay wrote:Gads...You really are that dense.

Have you ever considered in this presentation, talking about Fat Pauly and the mob killing people, that you might actually offend someone.

Now, understand me, I don't really care who gets offended by what. I think everyone should be offended at least once a day. But, as a magician, I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, you should stay away from a what could possibly be an offensive thing...

And, didn't your parents ever teach you to never point a gun at someone - not even a toy gun? My parents did...

I also have reservations about you doing a routine wherein you talk about having to kill your spectator. Maybe I'm just not the guy to ask, but if some cheeky 14 year old that looked exactly like you told me that he was going to kill me, I would be on the floor laughing in derision, disgust and disdain.

I'm sorry to be this blunt, but take a look at yourself in the mirror and have a good, long look. Can you imagine that kid telling anyone that he's going to have to kill them? And then, he produces a hand gun? How many kids do you read about going off the deep end and shooting places up? Probably a lot.

No, Mike, you really need to start using your brain...

Mike.

You're right, but please allow me to explain some things:

The whole routine is a comedy bit. The way I sopeak the patter informs the spectators that it is all a joke, and therefore they are not threatened or uncomfortable. Also, I do not aim directl at the with vthe playing card gun, but now that you mention it, it might not be a good thing to do.

SO, Here is an alternate ending: After I make the card gun and spectators begin to laugh like hyenas, I tell them "No no, this is no joke. See, the gun is real." I then aim off to the side and shoot the selection.

Is that better, Mr. Jay?

It's an interesting idea in theory but in any paid gigs for an adult audience - especially here in Britain - it wouldn't really go down too well at all.

If you want to stick with the mobster presentation then a better approach might be to shift it into the third-person - in which both you and the participant are playing roles to illustrate what happened on that night or whatever. That way it's not you threatening to shoot your participant (:shock:!) but Fat Pauly, and it's not your participant being shot but the character they are playing.

First off, hand guns are fully illegal in Canada. You might just wish to take a look into your laws...

Now, I realize that this isn't a real hand gun but rather one that shoots cards, however Canada's laws are fairly strict on these things and a 14 year old with one may just not be a good thing...I don't know, I don't live there.

You know what, I'm tired of typing and wasting my time here in general. You want to pull out a hand gun in jest, making your audience laugh like heinas (damn, I don't know how to spell "hyeena"), then more power to you man. Shoot 'em in the face, or the chest or the crotch. That'll really make 'em laugh.

Do it up.

Mike.

Mike - it's not a real gun but a pack of cards made to resemble the general shape of a gun.

Cardza wrote:Mike - it's not a real gun but a pack of cards made to resemble the general shape of a gun.

Well...Thank you for clearing that one up! Okay, I feel much the idiot...I'll crawl back under my rock now.

Mike.

Michael Jay wrote:First off, hand guns are fully illegal in Canada. You might just wish to take a look into your laws...

Now, I realize that this isn't a real hand gun but rather one that shoots cards, however Canada's laws are fairly strict on these things and a 14 year old with one may just not be a good thing...I don't know, I don't live there.

You know what, I'm tired of typing and wasting my time here in general. You want to pull out a hand gun in jest, making your audience laugh like heinas (damn, I don't know how to spell "hyeena"), then more power to you man. Shoot 'em in the face, or the chest or the crotch. That'll really make 'em laugh.

Do it up.

Mike.

Mr. Jay, it is not a gun at all! The cards are Faro'd together at an angle to resemble a gun. It is a funny moment. BUT, I will take previous advice in mind asbout a mobster theme making this routine less threatening. You're correct, and maybe I will do that! Do an act with a long 3 Shell Game, 3 Card Monte and other things like that.

Michael Jay wrote:

Cardza wrote:Mike - it's not a real gun but a pack of cards made to resemble the general shape of a gun.

Well...Thank you for clearing that one up! Okay, I feel much the idiot...I'll crawl back under my rock now.

Mike.

Not at all! You raised a valid point, as I said I know that here pointing even a mock-up of a gun at your participant and saying that you are going to have to shoot them would not go down well at all!

Thanks for the help Cardza! It is appreciated! The problem there was that I didn't understand that he didn't understand. Thank you! I brought up the same point myself too.