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first post yay! anyways, i got the ID along time ago, and it seems i cant hold it right I DONT KNOW WHAT im doing wrong but when i spread the cards out theres always some of the cards that are well if you know how to do it you know what im talking about but yea they show.... does it stop sticking? someone PLEASE help.. my msn is chipz_sythe@hotmail.com also if you want to PM me

firstly, it's usual to post an intorduction as a first post so that the members know a little more about you first. It helps us decide if people are here because they have a genuine interest in magic or if they are fishing for secrets

Anyway, ID's do wear out after excessive use and you can either.

1. keep trying until you become re-familiarised with the method
2. re-treat your deck
3. buy a new one

im still like i got it june 16th im 14 years old and ive only actually done the trick to people like 3 times.. and its like extremly hard to cover up the part where i cant reveal, what do you mean? is there more like sandy stuff i can add to it..??

You need to practice more. Simple as. Like.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but you need to really practice using and handling the deck. Then you'll get better at using it. Although it's a gaffed deck, that doesn't mean it will be easy. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it. Put in the hours, get the rewards.

Magicwilliam2011 wrote:im still like I got it june 16th im 14 years old and ive only actually done the trick to people like 3 times.. and its like extremly hard to cover up the part where I cant reveal, what do you mean? is there more like sandy stuff I can add to it..??

Well like is the like first deck you have like used or like are you like someone who like has studied like card magic?
If like you haven't like handled a like deck of cards before like then like it will like be something you like aren't used to. Like.
Running the cards like from like hand to hand like as if you are asking someone like to select one is like the best handling like and always like use a like light touch like as that like is the like best way like to handle an ID deck like.

There are three possible problems:

1. The ID was defective when you bought it.
2. The ID was OK, but is now no longer working.
3. You are not handling it right.

Echoing dat8962, the possible remedies are:

a. Return the ID and get a refund or a new one.
b. Buy a new one.
c. Re-treat the ID. See http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/sutra186081.php .
d. Try different ways of handling it. Try holding it nearer the ends, or nearer the middle. Hold the ID more firmly, or less. Try different ways of displaying the ID. Make sure you practise it, and that it works perfectly every time in practice, before trying to show others.

I think that, as you've had the ID six weeks, that's too long to return it to the place you bought it, so that leaves the other possible solutions.

The most obvious thing to do is to try option d, in case it is just a handling problem. If it isn't, you'll need to get a new ID, or get something to sort out the problem.

I was going to get an ID once, but I decided to go with the Sven instead. That was my first trick deck, and someone told me the Sven was much more versatile and easy to perform than the ID, so that's the one I decided to go with. So far I've been nothing but pleased with my Sven Deck, but I am hoping to soon get an ID.

On another note, if you've only performed the trick for three people, I'd definitely say you just need practice. Since I do not know the trick behind the ID, I cannot find your specific problem, but I can say that practice is the key to success in this game. I've been "performing" magic (that's what I call breakroom magic, showing a few bored co-workers magic) for about three months, but prior to that would do something here or there if the mood struck me. I've discovered in these three months that practice is the secret; it's the biggest secret we all use to convince you that what we do is real. Sure the gimmicks and the patter and the slights help, but none of this is as much the secret of magic as the practice.

JAlexBrown

With an ID, the cards definitley need a light handling touch as you have to remember what they are (without exposing too much).
If you practice the handling enough before you perform it, you will get used to the way the cards need to be handled to show what you want to show.
As with all decent effects, some practice and familiarity with the handling is required, despite dealers ads that claim you'll perform it in five minutes. They neglect to say you won't perform it well in five minutes.

The key is to run the cards from hand to hand with a light touch and you will find that nothing will be 'revealed' so to speak.

Now that you've revealed a little more I must agree with the Magic Wand and Lord Freddie.

This definately sounds like a practice issue!

I have the exact opposite problem, mine are too...stuck...

Is their any special technique to handling them in order to get the trick to activate, for lack of a better, non-spoiling word? I purchased the deck years ago, never used it (I was quite young), and do not have the instruction manual anymore.

Any suggestions? I've gone through and individual "done" each of them, hoping it would make it easier, but no noticeable progress. I'm not really sure, technically, how the trick functions, but would doing this (using each of them) another ten times make them easier to work?

Sorry if my language is cryptic. I'm trying to keep it spoiler-free.

I find olding a like standard firm grip on da cards like as you like spread fru em a dat really elps. Da lite touch like is needed wen yuv come to ya key card enit, so like wen you is der, use da lite touch like to make da reveal and dat, and den yeh, itl all look gravy cuz at va end o da day yeh its all bout practice ya get me dow ?

Yup, the ID isn't exactly self working. It takes practice to not only get it to work but to make it look absolutely natural, too. You need to get your technique down properly before showing it to someone. I still practice with mine using a second deck to generate random choices before I go out and use it, just to get back into the groove.

I had this problem at first, a little too 'showy' if you will. It was my first ID and thought it was normal. It caused me no end of grief until I decided to re-invisiblise it. Problem solved.

Using a second deck like Tomo said is a good idea, it speeds up practice. I got the best results by spreading exactly as I would normally, varying only the thumb pressure until the secret finally clicked. Remember it's got to look natural. This took longer than I thought. Keep trying!

Bill Malone has an entire routine based around the standard ID presentation. I think he spins it out a good five minutes. It's a corker.

Just in case it isn't clear from the previous posts (can't see why not as they're all perfectly presented)

Hold them firmly when spreading.
Hold them lightly when revealing