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Sure, many magicians can do it. I can do it, here's my video of me doing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASqkrjaPzGo

Anyway, how hard would you rate it? Alot of magicians have told me it's really easy to master. I disagree, it took me a considerable amount of practice to do it consistently and fast. People seem to like looking at it, the coin seems to move on it's own accord. I learned it from Mark Wilson's book, in the book it mentioned it toook considerable practice, and another book on sleight of hand and general magic also said that.

Please don't compare it to other tricks or flourishes. I know the four coin roll down is much harder, I can't do it yet. Also other sleights learned in Bobo's Modern coin magic like the backpalm require alot of practice and are pretty hard. (for me at least)

So let me know your opinions on the coin roll.

Thanks!

It is actually a very difficult flourish so you can be proud of your mastery of it. In the old days it used to be known as the steeplechase flourish.

I can do two on one hand. At one time I could do two on both hands but in recent years I have gotten lazy and can't do this on my left hand any more.

A most excellent flourish which fits in well with the coin roll is the Leipzig Thumb Roll described in the Leipzig book by Lewis Ganson. It is badly described which is unusual for Ganson but once you can figure it out it is worth learning.

Vernon said he had only seen Silent Mora and Leipzig do it. I have never seen anyone do it except myself.

The coin roll was the first thing that I learned in coin magic. I'm still not that great at it but I have to see its a great way to keep the fingers nimble. It's not exactly hard to get down, it just takes practice.

It's not that hard once you get the feel for it. The double coin roll seems mesmerizing to people even without any tricks preceding or following it.

It certainly takes a lot less effort, time, frustration, and pain than the muscle pass...

I think I spent about 20 hours of tv watching getting the coin roll down with both hands. its still something I have to practice often to keep it good. If I go even a week with out doing it a few times it take a bit to get it back quick. fortunetly its become a bit of a habbit so when I'm sitting around out comes the coin roll. I haven't tried the double coin roll, something new to work on now.

the coin roll seemed to come naturally to me. It just rolls across my hand, and when someone told me to roll it onto the other hand when your finished with the first hand I could do it immediately. Dont understand why...

I don't think it's hard, but I don't think it's easy either. It's just down to how much practice you put into it. Of course there'll always be people who can do it straight away, or can't do it at all.
I can do it, but not very well, but it's something I've never really practiced much. But I can muscle pass and pull off downs stars because I've practiced them more.

It's something I can do but not that well as I haven't practised it enough.
It certainly is impressive to a layman and congrats on mastering this flourish.

to some people it comes easy to others its very hard, to thoughs it came easy to i say try with both hands wilst classic palming a coin in each and if your a real smart a*se use three coins in each hand, thats three classiced and three over the fingers you clever sod.
its something I'm trying to get back into now the shakes have stopped but its a slow process, but its a good benchmark to your coin skill so keep at it and remember its not speed thats important.

Did you know that there is a world record for the coin roll?

It was first held by Jeff McBride at a lousy 33 a minute, then broken at 38 and 43, but is now held by the flourish 'master' Devo at 45 in one minute.

There is a video of an Asian guy on the net doing 67 in one minute! However, there are comments that it might be fake, especially as the guy isn't interested in applying for the world record.

I've been practising for the record for nearly a year, I started at 23 a minute and can now do around 43 on average. I have done 48 once, but that was a one off. I think to break the record, I would have to be able to comfortably do 50 in a minute. That would allow for nerves and sweat on the day. However, word on the grapevine is that Devo can do well over 45 but is just waiting for someone to break his record before he has another crack!

....my practise continues......

Dave Bonsall

It goes faster if you don't think about it.

Here is a routine I used to do. I posted it somewhere or other but have no idea where. First is the patter and then I shall detail the moves.

"Have you ever seen money walk before? I'll give it a bit of exercise. It will either go forwards or it will go backwards. If you ask it nicely it will even go under the hand. This is known as the thumb roll mainly because it rolls over the thumb. Right hand or left hand it makes no difference. As a matter of fact we'll start a race. I think the right hand is winning.

Of course it is more difficult to do two on one hand or if I really want to show off -and I often do- then I do two on both hands.

For the Grand Finale I usually have a roll on the drums but this will have to do. Ta ra! And there we are!"

A lot of the patter will explain the routine anyway but for the sake of completeness here are the moves.
One. You do the regular coin roll.
Two. You make it go forwards and backwards on the hand.
Three. You make it roll under the hand. Described in Leipzig's book by Ganson.
Four. You do the thumb roll described by Ganson in the Leipzig book.
Five. You transfer the coin to your left hand and start it rolling there.
Six. You produce another coin and start it going on your right hand. Two coins are now racing each other. One on each hand.
Seven. You now do two on one hand.
Eight. You now do two on both hands (This will take you a lot of practice-I can't do it any more because I am out of practice)
Nine. You finish with the Roll Down flourish that is described in Bobo. That is the "Grand Finale" described.

Actually I usually finish by doing a sleight described in Bobo where I count the four coins into my left hand and bounce them secretly back into my right hand offering them to a spectator saying "try it yoursel. It is easier than it looks" Of course all the coins have disappeared. I usually produce them by showing them in the other hand saying "oh, no-they are over here-you weren't watching!" It gets a big laugh. I also use it when giving change when selling svengali decks.

There. You now have a fantastic flourish routine. If you are one of those hotshot sleight of hand people this will keep you busy for a while.

Don't say Mark Lewis never gives you anything. And here is some historical information. The coin roll was invented by Nate Leipzig after he was playing with a button.

It's like anything I suppose... The more you practise, the 'easier' it gets.

I think a lot of these kind of skills are wasted/not learnt because some people (YouTube exposers, etc) look for a 'quick fix'. We all know that the majority of our art is done with plenty of practise and patience...

I can do it and it was difficult at first, but after long hours of practise when watching TV, etc - I got it... And STILL practise

mark lewis wrote:A most excellent flourish which fits in well with the coin roll is the Leipzig Thumb Roll described in the Leipzig book by Lewis Ganson. It is badly described which is unusual for Ganson but once you can figure it out it is worth learning.

What is this thumb roll you speak of? do you mean rolling it backwards round the thumb and into the palm?
Can you tell us what it looks like?

It is on page 106 of the Nate Leipzig book by Vernon and Ganson. Seek and ye shall find.
The book is worth getting anyway.Nowadays it will be inexpensive.