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I have never used the hinber rind as (like it has been pointed out) it is mainly used on stage or from a further distance than I perform. I do have an Ellis ring however and use it a lot. There are a lot of effects for the ring in The Art of Close Up Magic Volume 1 by Lewis Ganson. Also Paul Wilson has a really nice (and visual) routine using the Ellis ring on his website. There is a video clip that you can check out - it's really good.

Hope this helps

Craig

any chance of a link thanxs m8.

I'm going to get an ellis ring as i have a booking for a table hopping, well actualy hop as its one table and I'm just suposed to be there type of thing.
which will compliment my rope stuff and coin stuf, hope my tenkie holds up.
I'm going to do a copper / silver, capricorn change ala sankey in the speks hand which i love doing but havant been doing it long.
i think i'll invest in a chop ring too from looney bin for some variations on a raven theme .
thanxs for the advice.

Here you go!

www.rpaulwilson.com/videos.htm

The effect is called the One true Ring. It's great for table hopping. Let me know if you like it

Craig

ah ressurrection!

i bought a jardin ellis ring yesterday, and im enjoying it alot..anyone have any recommended books on the subject? im just curious...

magicdiscoman wrote:so to sumerise then a himber ring is for stage and not close up, a ellis ring stands closer inspection and is better for linking rings and ring off / on rope.
and the chop ring well thats a completely diferent thread entirely .

Well... not quite.

A Himber ring was designed for the linking finger rings effect. You can do it close up or on stage, depending on a number of variables, but normally it is more of a stage/platform effect.

The Ellis Ring is not a finger ring, more of a smaller sized harness ring. It works on a completely different principle (one that is used a lot in coin magic). It is equally effective in close-up and platform situations, depending on how you use it. It was designed for ring and string / ring and stick (wand) routines. You cannot do a linking ring effect (well, you could do a bluff one, I guess) with the Ellis ring--but then, as I said, that's not what it's designed to do.

A "chop" ring is a utility device, along the lines of the Raven or Bat, but out in the open in the form of a finger ring.

I hope that helps clear things up a bit.

BTW, Johnson Products makes a very nice and affordable Ellis Ring. Many dealers carry it.

thanxs since last year when i first posted iv'e learnt a lot.

http://www.browsersden.com/cgi-bin/quik ... _match=yes

I was curious if that specific version of Ellis ring is worth buying or is it just cheap c*** (not the best). I am interested in buying one, but would really like to do a linking finger rings effect with it, although people say it's not made for that. I don't really like Himber rings because of their mechanism. I was wondering if the ring on the link i supplied is cheap quality or just cheap price, and good quality. Also, is it 'possible' to do a linking finger ring effect with an Ellis and if so, how bad would it look?
Thanks