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Postby Citrus » Oct 8th, '07, 13:24



Your not being serious about the second color change, right? If you are i think most of the members here will show you the door!

Anyway the first change was Ok, however you shouldn't let the spec (or cam) see you pushing the top card forward, unless you do another variation of the Erdnase change where you make it obvious that you push it forward (by about 2.5cm). A little tip, use your little finger to slid the top card forward as you put you hand on top, which if done properly will give you all the cover you need.

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Postby sly » Oct 8th, '07, 13:32

Watching the second video now...whats he gonna do..AHHHHHHHH MY EYES!!!
I CANT LOOK IT DIRECTLY IT BURNS!!!

seriously :cry:

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Postby Ur » Oct 8th, '07, 13:47

I dont know who Gregory Wilson is, but does he teach how to teleport the veiwers face an inch to the left? Cos thats what happened to the cam!

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Postby Fireheat » Oct 8th, '07, 17:13

steve-peters wrote:well fire your little sister is bviously cleverer than you then cos you came to the wrong conclusion of how it was done. I posted this on here so as to get some tips and advice of how to improve it which is what I thought these forum were for a place for magicians to be able to chat, share ideas, help each other improve and keep each other informed of whats new in magic. I didn't realise the forum was here just so you could insult other magician just because you don't understand somthing.


Great defence!

Alright, I'll give you some tips on how to improve your second video.*
#1 - Don't move anything, not even your hand, especially not the camera, when you are 'changing' the card.*
#2 - Buy a better cam, 'cause obviously your camera can not keep up with your super fast handling skills, which cause us to miss the 'magic moment'!*

Hmm, that's all I can think of at this moment.
By the why, I wasn't insulting you in any way, I was just giving out my opinion on your video!

Anyway, I hope soooo this will improve your future videos!*

Ps. I love this quote, don't know why!
Citrus wrote:Your not being serious about the second color change, right? If you are I think most of the members here will show you the door!


* - Sarcasm

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Postby steve-peters » Oct 8th, '07, 17:47

grego wilson is a great close up magician who is also hilarious to watch perform if you get a chance to see him perform i really recomend it the move which because of forum rules i can't expose here is actualy a very very simple move (which is why not many magicians use it as we always looking for fancy moves and flourishes) which only involves a small movment of your hand to achive one of the simplist moves out there really

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Postby Beardy » Oct 8th, '07, 18:34

im sure that there would be an exception to the rule in this case if you posted a tutorial

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Postby steve-peters » Oct 8th, '07, 22:47

obviously i can't give the name of the move but it is a very simple move and i do mean simple the most info i can give you is you'll have to find out about louis simonov (spelling of name may be wrong i don't know). so you'll have to research wich move it was yourselves i have given you some where to start looking. admittidly you would usualy cover your hand movement with somthing like clicking your fingers i chose not to to prove somthing to my self (something that dai vernon once said to be exact and he was right). there you go you can now research it yourselves if your willing to put the time in to finding the move if your serious. i hope that doesn't break any rules on here.

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Postby HenryHoudini » Oct 8th, '07, 22:55

steve-peters wrote:obviously I can't give the name of the move


You can always give the name of a move. That doesn't teach the move unless its something like the Slide-up, slide other card down.... so on change.

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Postby stevebo » Oct 8th, '07, 23:56

I actually have no idea what you are on about... Are you saying that you did a sleight in that video? Did that sleight involve a program called "Windows Movie Maker"?

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Postby HenryHoudini » Oct 9th, '07, 00:06

I believe it might have been something called iMovie, or LOOK I CAN DO BAD CAMERA EDITS!

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Postby Citrus » Oct 9th, '07, 00:10

steve-peters wrote:obviously I can't give the name of the move but it is a very simple move and I do mean simple the most info I can give you is you'll have to find out about louis simonov (spelling of name may be wrong I don't know). so you'll have to research wich move it was yourselves I have given you some where to start looking. admittidly you would usualy cover your hand movement with somthing like clicking your fingers I chose not to to prove somthing to my self (something that dai vernon once said to be exact and he was right). there you go you can now research it yourselves if your willing to put the time in to finding the move if your serious. I hope that doesn't break any rules on here.


Dude, give up! Stop trying to make us believe that you did a sleight, when its clearly a poorly done camera editing trick.

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Postby steve-peters » Oct 9th, '07, 09:02

look the move is louis simonovs flipit move as i said a very simple move that involves a very small quick movement of the hand if you don't know this move then thats your own faults for not researching and finding it yourselves. ok i agree the video quality is bad but thats because i have the cheapest web cam possible here and it has a s*** frame rate which is why you don't get all the movement. so in a way the camera did cover some of the movement but i guess thats just a bonus of a bad camera occasionaly. but the move used was louis simonovs flipit move. i gave you enough leads to find this yourselves but unfortunatley i guess some of you need infomation spoon fed to you. shame

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Postby steve-peters » Oct 9th, '07, 09:02

look the move is louis simonovs flipit move as i said a very simple move that involves a very small quick movement of the hand if you don't know this move then thats your own faults for not researching and finding it yourselves. ok i agree the video quality is bad but thats because i have the cheapest web cam possible here and it has a s*** frame rate which is why you don't get all the movement. so in a way the camera did cover some of the movement but i guess thats just a bonus of a bad camera occasionaly. but the move used was louis simonovs flipit move. i gave you enough leads to find this yourselves but unfortunatley i guess some of you need infomation spoon fed to you. shame

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Postby steve-peters » Oct 9th, '07, 09:06

and unfortunatley some of these people seem to be senior members that are to lazy to research somthing for themselves and need it spoon fed to them. guess thats why they will always perform magic in their bedrooms

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Postby sly » Oct 9th, '07, 09:20

steve-peters wrote:and unfortunatley some of these people seem to be senior members that are to lazy to research somthing for themselves and need it spoon fed to them. guess thats why they will always perform magic in their bedrooms


I do perform magic in my bedroom,im not old,but whats wrong with practicing?
Now here it seems you dont perform magic in your bedroom or in a stage,im slightly inclined to think that you my friend perform your magic in Movie Maker.

Do you want to see me vanish? ill PM you if you want....No really let me just finish editing it...

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