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My First WebCam Trick

Postby Phas3r » Nov 30th, '07, 09:15



Its my first clip, my webcam is very cheap and i never had someone look at my magic from up my head before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8sgYKWcdrI deleted

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGBPUSYVYlg New version
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It is not the complete version because it require someone to hold the red card while i move to the next card and to sign the chosen card wich really make the final much more exciting when its signed.

I will someday get a hold on a good camera and film some live but i advise you already it will be in french! ;-) (ill make subtitles ;-))

Ok i didnt put credits yet on youtube so ill put em here first and i will post em in YTube comments when i find how!

The main routine come from Red hot Chili mama as seen on the first video of the serie Easy to Master Card Miracles with Micheal Ammar. The final blow is a clever idea by Bill simon Instant-Transpo. From a french book, Les meilleurs tours de la prestidigitation moderne by bruce elliott.

I hope you enjoy.

Last edited by Phas3r on Dec 25th, '07, 07:04, edited 3 times in total.
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Postby moonbeam » Nov 30th, '07, 13:31

Even though this is one of my favourite tricks that I perform down the local, I can never remember it's name :cry: ...... Red Hot Chilli Mama - I'm gonna have to try and remember that :roll:

The performance was okay (gave you 4 stars on YouTube :wink: ).

The best thing about this trick is that it's soooo easy to do - yet it usually completely baffles the layman. I ususally get good results (in terms of spectator reaction) with this trick every time.

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Postby Demitri » Nov 30th, '07, 17:54

Your performance was ok, but you need to work on handling the deck. It's fine if you want to move slowly and make your actions deliberate, but you need to keep your movements smooth and natural.

Case in point - when you turn over the red card for the first time - it needs to be without hesitation. The bit of fumbling you do only heightens suspicion. If that's the card, why can't you just turn it right over?

As for the "transpo" section - I wasn't feeling that. The magic is in the change of the card on the table, and all focus should remain squarely on that card. Bringing back the Queen detracts from it, for me.

Also, I'm not sure if you perform this the same way out in the world, but I don't see the point of announcing the red card might turn into the 3 of spades before you actually show it IS the 3 of spades. Alluding to the climax actually ruins the climax.

All in all, this is a solid first effort. Keep up the good work.

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Postby Phas3r » Nov 30th, '07, 18:39

You are right I usually begin this trick using a "pick a card any card" pattern and then make it be signed assap in example the queen of diamond. then it become red and i asked the spectator to hold it casualy between his thumb and index, thumb up. then before he touch the card i start rushing it a lil bit into choosing a new card so he forget he has the signed queen of diamond in his hand.

I keep the tempo very tight at the end to avoid giving enuff time for the spec to look at the card. "One card has change to red, (Bis), only one card has turn to red, as we can see..." as we realize the new card "3 of spade" hasnt seem to change to red but there is really only 1 red card.

I then spin out a card from the deck and i catch it with right fingers instead of just taking the top card and i ask: "Maybe i can hold the queen of heart for you, i just touch both cards togheter and turn up the queen of hearth face up so everyone can see it has switched hands. Then the spec realize what hapend and look at his card to find out its now the 3 of spade, if he dont or is slow i just tell him to look at his card.

Thank you very much for your advices and critics thats exactly what im looking for. Ill work on the naturel and smoothness of my movement this week-end and i will update the video during next week.

Edited: I came up with a new version the other day and because i had no answer in the tread i decided to update this first topic instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGBPUSYVYlg

Its The second version of my web cam trick and because of the quality of comments i had i came back with a new version wich start to look much more like an illusion. I will polish and rehearse all the moves this week and i will update again.

I first thought it would be very easy to do a webcam trick from something im used to perform in stand up situations. But i can say now it is just as learning a new effect, it requires time patience and dedication as any other performance.

Im glad i post it here or i would probably have take a while for learning this lesson.

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Postby cragglecat » Dec 6th, '07, 00:30

The DL looks better on the second video - less fumbling as previously mentioned. Other people can advise as whether this is a good idea but when I'm performing red hot mamma I sometimes gesture with the colour changed card so that I have a get ready for the DL, I can then return the colour changed card to the pack and DL straight away. Works for me and people don't seem to suspect anything.

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Postby Phas3r » Dec 6th, '07, 07:33

I see what you mean, i do something similar but i ask a question or i talk while i "Get ready" so im now looking toward been ready as soon as the red card become on top. Its just a compromise i must do between how i usualy do it and how it will work in such close up.

There is some other lil things im trying to rehearse but the basic will stay the same as in second video. Just less figgling around i guess.

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Postby joecarr14 » Dec 6th, '07, 18:06

nice, its a very simple yet very baffling trick, but am i the only one to notice 'remember queen of hearts' when it was the queen of diamonds?!

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Postby Phas3r » Dec 25th, '07, 05:39

I had noticed it after i post it on youtube but thought id leave it like that anyway and see if anyone notice.

You are the first to mention it.

I took the first video off so its now fixed! I should update this one soon and ive start working on a coin routine for the webcam.

I saw another post wich is locked about why people would make magic tricks for a webcam.

Well for me its just a way to keep working on my magic, to use different technics and to get used with them. I am learning at the same time basic technics on video edition and sound edition.

I know my videos arent professional and i know my camera is one of the cheapest but i also know im not making any money from those videos and im never gonna force anyone to look at them.

I try to put credits on my video for magicians and i took noticed to put names only from now on.

M**T***aTion? lol Off course i get pleasure from it, its the only time i can see myself from the spectator view. So you can expect to see more from me in near futur.

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Postby joecarr14 » Dec 25th, '07, 19:09

keep up the good work! :)

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Postby Lenoir » Jan 5th, '08, 21:19

Very nice, although there are a lot better ways to present the red card the second time. As in pretending you've messed up and desperately searching for a red card, the turning that one over and saying something like "oh well one will have to do...oh"

really gets em going!

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Postby Phas3r » Jan 8th, '08, 08:42

Better ways always depend on the presentations and the surrounding.

Also no one would believe a magician on webcam faking to miss a trick, it just doesnt make sense at all, why would i post it if i would have missed it anyway?

I understand that you mean in real life situation and yes i agree sucker effects when well placed are always good but its a bit boring and a repetitive idea. After all the basic idea of this trick is something im performing for 10 years now.

I do still use parts of red hot mama scripts and i do enjoy the brainstorm that happen when people realize there is only 1 red card but i believe the layman have a better reference to what happen if he can understand and see both cards change without much words.

The feeling of holding on a card and been able to visually see (imagine) it change for another card is really strong i think.

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Postby Tenko » Jan 10th, '08, 04:08

Phaser,

I assume you seek comments, otherwise you wouldn't post video links. I have to say that your DL needs a vast ammount of work. It really does need improvement. There is no way that pinching 2 cards on a turn over can look OK, sorry, it has to be done right.

Stand in front of a mirror, and turn over one card. I bet you don't pinch the edge of it. So turn over 2 cards to look the same as if you turned one. Then you will have the DL off correctly.

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Postby Phas3r » Jan 10th, '08, 07:33

Your right im seeking comments and im posting on a forum where i know there is magicians to evaluate it.

Im putting lots of works on my D/L and it does looks like my single.

The only slight difference is widly seen on the video angle and its the fact that my left thumb isnt pushing on top of the card but on its side. Also the time i take to count the card is very long i must admit it.

Im not sure what you mean by "Pinch", if you mean squeeze, your probably right too. I applied a lot of pressure on this card, to start with it make that snap noise but i should release after.

thanx for pointing that out.

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Postby Soren Riis » Jan 10th, '08, 15:27

The critical DL does not work. To keep the spectators in suspense you let the card with a red back protrude. That is logical and make sense, but why do you square up the red backed card with the rest of the deck before it is turned over (after some fumbling). This look highly unnatural....

Sorry being so critical, but you kind of asked for it. The main problem is in some sense in the effect itself, since there is an enormous heat of the card
that "literally speaking is flashing red" and you are making the "move" (the DL) at the very same time the spectators kind of expect that something fishy is happening.

With a slight modification the effect is a real killer (at least for some type of spectator): "The spectator choose a card WITHOUT the back being shown. This card is a completely free choice. You then ask what the card was, and show that it is curious that only one card in the deck has a red back (for this you have all the time in the world to prepare the DL since you look at the faces of the cards while making the preparations).
The red backed card is (apparently) placed face down on the table. A second card is being chosen (f.....) by a spectator. You explain that the back of this card also is red. When you spread the card unfortunately all the cards have blue backs. It looks like you messed up. But after a bit acting etc. you turn the red card on the table over and its the card chosen by the second spectator."


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Postby Phas3r » Jan 10th, '08, 18:51

I see what you mean, ill go back to the old routine, re hot chili mama and ill try to see what micheal ammar is using, if i remember right he takes out the red card then without showing it yet he bring it back on top of the deck then he do the d/l.

I dont use this version cause it need verbal misdirection and it was impossible without a mic. But ill check how i can turn the card assap.

By the way i never been caught on a d/l and nobody ever suspect there was one. Sometimes i have comment similar to:"lots of trick i know use a double card but you deffinately used only one..."

But i came here to have the magician perspective and i will work toward your standards to accomplish myself. I will either have to change the way i reveal the card or i need to drop the the top half on table and reveal the red card assap.

Ill check this out thx

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