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stolen cards by lennart green

Postby mister magic » Dec 31st, '07, 11:55



I have the stolen card trick by Lennart green, but it i received it with a poor quality copy of how to present this trick.

I have no problem doing this trick, but was wandering how lennart Green himself would present this trick.

I searched the Internet, but could not find any video of Lennart Green performing with this trick.
Any of You ?

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Postby greedoniz » Dec 31st, '07, 14:00

I would say that you should try and work on your own presentation of this effect, which is a corker!
The mechanics of it are incredibly simple so leaving you plenty of room to concentrate on patter.

There is however a tube video here which is pretty much the same as described by Lennert in the stolen cards instructions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Nhjv4y7Jk

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Postby mister magic » Dec 31st, '07, 16:17

I have no intension to copy other magicians style, because I belief that the more natural you behave, the more convincing you will be.
I love to see Lennart Green perform, he has a very smart “clumsy way “of performing witch I think is great, that’s why I was wondering how he would do his own trick.
At the moment I am learning to get the basic skills of card handling, because I think that a tricked card deck can be used now& than, but using normal playing cards ,that can be examined by the spectators and depends on the skill of the magician is more convincing .
Ian Kendall might be the person to get me on the road, as I saw a short video clip in which I he was giving a tutorial lesson.
By mastering the basic skills of card handling, makes me less dependable, and let me go from trick to trick with more variation.

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Postby dat8962 » Jan 5th, '08, 20:28

If my memory serves me, Lennart performs Stolen Cards on his Green Lite DVD but doesn't teach the routine. I reviewed Green Lite on TM so if you find the thread it will confirm, or not that it's on the DVD.

This is a marvelous routine and is perfect the way it is in my opinion. I really don't know what could be done to improve it and I perform it all of the time, so much so that I have three decks so that I can alternate between different cards.

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Re: stolen cards

Postby greedoniz » Jan 6th, '08, 13:03

mister magic wrote:I have no intension to copy other magicians style, because I belief that the more natural you behave, the more convincing you will be.
I love to see Lennart Green perform, he has a very smart “clumsy way “of performing witch I think is great, that’s why I was wondering how he would do his own trick.
At the moment I am learning to get the basic skills of card handling, because I think that a tricked card deck can be used now& than, but using normal playing cards ,that can be examined by the spectators and depends on the skill of the magician is more convincing .
Ian Kendall might be the person to get me on the road, as I saw a short video clip in which I he was giving a tutorial lesson.
By mastering the basic skills of card handling, makes me less dependable, and let me go from trick to trick with more variation.


To perform stolen cards you dont need any card handling skills as it is completely self working so I dont really get where you are coming from to be honest. I do understand however that you wish to handle the effect in your own way in which case why look at the Lennart Green version as it may tempt you to do it his way rather than your way??

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Postby Markdini » Jan 6th, '08, 13:36

I think I can speak for me and Greedo here. Bronzy's mate showed us Stolen cards at one of the tm meet ups. We both watched and was blown away by it. Its amazingly simple too.

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Postby mister magic » Jan 6th, '08, 23:03

Let me explain,

I started performing magic tricks a year ago after the family Christmas dinner at home.
It started as a yoke, with kid stuff magician tricks, it was a great success!!
Sins then, they ask/suspect me to perform every year and on special days also, and I enjoyed doing it.
So I got more interested in serious magic, and bought special delivery (David Regal) witch I found genius designed.
It took me a while to perform it without fear of showing how it works, and that give me the confidence to do other tricks. (Rope/balloons/empty restored soda can)
This year I performed again at Christmas, and did the stolen cards trick, with great success!!
The problem I have, I guess, is that, the simpler the trick is the more I am afraid they know how it works.
And being among friend & family they tend to say things like, I know how you did it, Do it one more time, you are doing this or that.
In the beginning I was tempted to do so, but decided not to do it twice, I find it clumsy to setup a tricked deck in front of the spectators.
Is it wise to show a trick twice? , if so, do I have a variation of the same trick?
At the moment i show my friend first, to see if my performance is convincing.
This might sound silly to the more advanced magician, but I guess I have to start somewhere.

Thanks for the reply’s

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Postby greedoniz » Jan 7th, '08, 00:17

No to be honest I think you did right

Once thoroughly practiced it is best to try any new effect on friends or family and dont fall for the temptation to repeat it either unless it is an ambitious card routine or some other trick in which repeating is in built.

You will find that when you start out in magic most people will see what you do as a puzzle to be worked out but in time with practice put into performance this will go almost completely and you will be left with a polished magic effect.
If you have people guessing how it was done you are at least on the right track (they dont really know).

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Postby Lord Freddie » Jan 7th, '08, 00:19

It's not wise to perform a trick twice, unless you can do the same thing with a different method. There are a few exceptions for this but generally, when people ask you to repeat something, it's so they can watch more carefully and work out what you are doing.
Sometimes people want you to repeat it as they enjoyed it so much the first time they want to see it again, but as they know what's coming it will never be as enjoyable as the first performance.
I suggest showing them something else.

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Postby The Magic Attic » Jan 7th, '08, 16:33

look in RRCM for gemini twins - its the same exactly the effect.

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Postby Lenoir » May 26th, '09, 10:54

The Magic Attic wrote:look in RRCM for gemini twins - its the same exactly the effect.

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It's not in The Royal Road, rather the first effect in Fulves' More Self Working Card Tricks.

Dave Cambell also has a version in his book.

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Postby Relish » May 26th, '09, 12:39

ive recently watched green lite and it is on there with the explanation (the one thats not explained is the 4 ace production).

problem is where to get all the different cards from without spending a fortune!

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Postby daleshrimpton » May 26th, '09, 12:43

if the cards all have to have different backs, buy a cheap rainbow deck.


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Postby Lenoir » May 26th, '09, 13:55

Indeed, the kicker is that all of the cards are the same at the end, but I've never really been a fan of that.

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Postby dat8962 » May 26th, '09, 14:46

problem is where to get all the different cards from without spending a fortune!


The cards do need to have different backs but the fronts also need to be the same. I'm not therefore sure that the Rainbow fits the bill.

Gemini twins is indeed the same trick but the nice thing about Stolen Cards is that the storyline is really nice and it fits the backs of the card all being from different casino's. At around £17 new I consiuder it good value although as said, it's paying for the unique cards and the patter.

Because it's practically self working it allows you to focus on the presentation more than the method and the fact that it can be performed by a novice but looks everybit like a professional trick, it's ideal for most people's repetoire.

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