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Hi folks,
I am only just getting into magic at the moment, I am practising almost every night with a deck of cards, I'm getting better, but I'm not ready for public yet. And i've learnt one key thing.
The type of trick that has personaly appealed to me most has been tricks done with everyday items.
Cigarette magic is a brilliant example despite being hampered a bit by the recent ban, also coin in a bottle etc, I guess you could say bar room tricks. Things I can do spur of the moment, lighting a cigarette with Flare rather than my lighter, picking up and examining my empty beer bottle, then cramming a 50p coin through the neck (thinking bitten coin). Small tricks sure, maybe just occasionaly freaking my mates out in bars, but this could be where I start and I will keep practising in private with my cards and reading up. Maybe one day i'll be ready for a more overt public display. Maybe

Anyway, I need your help, again, and believe me you've all already been really helpful, i've learnt so much just from browsing through here. I'd like to know about any tricks out there with everyday objects, quick tricks without much patter needed, or where the patter is partly optional and can be mimed out instead (ie picking up my drinks bottle and staring at it before pushing a coin through it), ninja or stealth tricks are there many out there? which ones do you use ? (which ones are c*** (not the best) and should be avoided?)

Any help is always appreciated.

-Cyn-

Prohibition by Charlie Justice is a great effect of a bottle cap penetrating into the bottle.

Ghost Bills by Andrew Mayne is a very nice effect of two bills which pass through each other.

Misleading Mislead by Alan Rorrison is an impromptu pen through bill effect, again visually stunning.

Check these out if you get a chance.

Look into Crazymans Handcuffs (penetrating elastic bands)

it is a classic effect which is relatively easy to learn, takes no pocket space and is incredibly visual. Just bang a few Laccy bands on your wrist and away you go

what about coin magic? You don't get much more everyday than coins.

A couple of Sankey DVDs have impromtu stuff on them....

"Anytime, Anywhere" is very good and "Amazing magic and mentalism anyone can do" has a lot of easy effects a lot of which are with everyday items.

Another good book is Karl Fulves Self Working Table magic, some nice little ideas in there which might be what you're after.

Thanks a lot guys(& lady) some good ideas in there, I had seen Sankey's DVDs around and think a couple are now on my shopping list, am looking into a bit of coin magic too.
I've also been interested in PK too, magic with (supposedly) everyday items, but thats a bigger spend so ill take my time over that. also im a bit worried about dropping it in the same pocket with my phone, possible mobile phone death?

Anyway, muchos grassy ass, once again you've been a great help.

-Cyn-

Have you looked much into money magic in general? There are a few good books on it (I won't recommend them since your already looking into buying a dvd set that will keep you occupied for awhile). But it is always fun to rip apart a borrowed bill or make a waitresses tip appear from your two empty hands.

Pen sleights are useful to learn. Standard black or blue Bic pens are perfect for a lot of routines. The caps can replace cigarettes in many sleights.

Re-Cap, by Greg Wilson (Art of Astonishment)

Son of Recap, my Apollo Robbins (Cultural Xchange 2)

are good to learn.

Ok... you're "NEW" to magic so rather than wasting your money in buying a single effect, invest into the books that will allow you to go considerably further. My first suggestion being to polish your understanding of rudimentary Slight-of-hand via two key resources;

Bill Tarr's NOW YOU SEE IT NOW YOU DON'T (books I&II)
Jeff McBride's MANIPULATION VIDEO SERIES

If you have a penchant for playing cards you may want to look into a couple of specialty books as well as videos dealing with some of the more difficult odds & ends such as "The Pass" but again, your goal should be to be the most bang for the buck, so learn your slights and you will be able to do a heck of a lot with just about anything you touch.

About 30 years ago I was living in Chicago and hanging out with a crew of kids at the Izzy Rizzy's Magic Shop and the Bit O'Magic dinner club across the street. I stress that we were all "kids" I don't think anyone in the group was more than 19 years old at the time with a few as young as 16. That includes a buck-toothed bushy headed guy named Bill Malone... aside from being one of Marlow's prized students Bill was an addict when it came to learning slights and creating manipulation routines with just about everything he touched... needless to say, it seems to have paid off for him

Now, there is another side to this tale... Bill, Mark Kornhauser and others teamed up with L&L and Stevens Magic many years ago and created a series of fairly inexpensive videos (VHS) on Improvisational Magic as well as Bar Magic. I highly recommend these in that they will take you light years down the path you seem to be interested in.

There is nothing wrong with paying $50.00 for a video that covers one single trick but in my mind, this is not a wise move for someone "New" and looking to get a bit ahead of the curve. The materials I've suggested will give you dozens of effects as well as an understanding about performance and presentation so think it over before you make your move.

I started to become famous in my small town merely by doing Water to Beer magic trick. This is usually a closer to my usual three-trick routine (I never used cards till last year). I was called a miracle worker and a best friend to almost all the young adult/adult crowd to most bars in our area.

This is a powerful trick that I can recommend that you start with.

Bill Tarr's Now You See It Now You Don't was my first magic book, (not counting the book given to me when I was eight) which I bought about three or so months ago.

Im not saying I'm any expert on magic text, but as a beginner I found the book at little confusing. It works really well as an overview of magic but I found it hard to fully learn from it. I would still recommend this book to anyone, but I would warn you that you shouldn't expect to be able to master techniques based on the instructions in this book.

Also if cigarette magic is what your looking for, this book has a really good intro to cigarette slights and has a fun routine.

ArcticBanana wrote:Bill Tarr's Now You See It Now You Don't was my first magic book, (not counting the book given to me when I was eight) which I bought about three or so months ago.

Im not saying I'm any expert on magic text, but as a beginner I found the book at little confusing. It works really well as an overview of magic but I found it hard to fully learn from it. I would still recommend this book to anyone, but I would warn you that you shouldn't expect to be able to master techniques based on the instructions in this book.

Also if cigarette magic is what your looking for, this book has a really good intro to cigarette slights and has a fun routine.

if you found that tough you'd gotten nowhere using some of the stuff my generation were forced to deal with prior to it and the Mark Wilson Course hitting the shelves... they were the most explicit and easy to learn from books ever published at the time, both heralded for similar reasons.

Perhaps, if you augment that book with the McBride materials you'll start to understand things better... I know many in today's generation seem to require video in order to understand things...

George Schindlers 'Magic With Everyday Objects' is worth looking into.

The Tarbell Course, though costly if bought at once, has plenty of effects using every day items. It also covers everything else for when you need it!