Monty The Spiv - video or story?

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Monty The Spiv - video or story?

Postby Briareos » Jul 7th, '08, 18:13



Although I have read a lot about this predecessor of "Sam the Bellhop" I have never actually seen it performed life nor can I find a video or even a script of the story online.

It would be great if someone could post their performance and or story here!

Thank you in advance

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Postby bmat » Jul 7th, '08, 18:42

I don't mean this to sound overly snooty but have you googled 'Sam The Bellhop"? It is not exactly a well kept secret.

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Postby Briareos » Jul 7th, '08, 22:26

I am not asking about Sam but about "Monty The Spiv" hence the thread title.
I don't want this to sound overly snooty but have you read the thread title?
If Sam and Monty are one and the same routine with just a different name I appologize for my ignorance.

And yes, I have googled "Monty the Spiv" without result. It would be really nice if someone could upload his or her performance!

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Postby Jobasha » Jul 7th, '08, 23:40

This thread may be of some interest.

http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/sutra241880.php

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Postby Briareos » Jul 8th, '08, 09:23

Thanks Jobasha, but I already looked through that thread. As I said I couldn't find anything online.

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Monty The Spiv

Postby Allen Tipton » Jul 11th, '08, 11:35

:D Monty The Spiv was a 4 page routine put out by Harry Stanley of Unique Magic Studios, London W!, in the 1950's.
He credits Fred Lowe for the 'Wide Boy' routine and states that it was used with great success by Ken Brooke.
For our American friends a spiv( World War 11 slang) and wide boy were names for con men, flim flam men..cheats who took your money

The original idea was called Diamond Jack. Hugard published a version.in 1937. Ency Of Card Tricks.
Mine came from Ireland's Magic Inc. in the 80's.
Then came Bill Malone & Sam The Bellhop, an original version with an American slant.
Somewhere in my reading i did fiund another American who performed Sam The Bellhop, years ago, but his name escapes me.
Peter Stedman, UK, has just released his very easy, play any country, version on dvd.
Recently on his UK lecture tour Diamond Jim Tyler had his version, detailed in his lecture notes.

Again for those who do not know, it is a story illustrated with a deck of cards. Each card(s) which turn up emphasising that point in the story.
Usually lasts 5 minutes, is instantly reset & makes an interesting finale to a table routine in the right venue with the right audience. :D
There is a new? rude version of the routine called,'Sam The Call Girl'.
No I have not bought it, seen it or read it! It is described as Very flithy & Very Funny by some. Utter rubbish & tripe by others. Not for the Vicar's Tea Party or Aunt Agatha's At Home. But some will buy it.

Allen Tipton

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