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"Brothers should pull up their pants.. Some people might not want to see your underwear - I'm one of them" - Barack Obama

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opie wrote:I wish to thank everyone, especially non-USA residents, who feel the excitement of seeing and hearing a President Elect who will truly, without equivocation, be the voice of FREEDOM and EQUALITY.

And, the best thing about his election is that the IQ level of the Executive Branch of our government will be at least three digits, for the first time in eight years...

pie Wan

It's a very long time since the US elections only affected US citizens.

Yesterday morning's newspapers were testament to that.

The Mirror, for example, led with an open thank you letter to American voters for helping save a million British jobs that would have been lost if the Republicans had been allowed to carry on.

The affect of American politics on other nations is so strong these days, that I often think that non-Americans should be allowed to vote in US elections.

Failing that, Americans that wish to abstain from voting should be allowed to sell their votes to non-Americans. That would be a perfect model capitalism in action, after all.

Many U.S viewers were impressed that we let off so many fireworks yesterday in celebration of the election.

Anyone see the south park episode on the election?

PC, yes - the US elections have worldwide impact. However, you won't be dealing with (nor will any other Brit) the domestic issues which will very certainly rise under this new administration.

Since England is so happy about Barack Obama, can I expect support from your citizens if my current employer is put out of business as a result of the new tax plan of the Obama administration? Will you start a pool for my bills and health care payments? After all - if we're saving some of your jobs - aren't you obligated to help out with the Americans who lose theirs?

Will the hope-filled British citizens help my sisters when their income suddenly moves them into a higher tax bracket (a near guarantee, considering the plans laid out in the Obama plan - something I'm sure many haven't actually read yet), and the already looming threat of possible mortgage problems comes closer to reality?

I appreciate that many of you are thrilled about the Obama election. I appreciate that you may have hated the last President of my country (I wasn't fond of him, myself). However, your opinions are those of an outsider - with the bare minimum of knowledge. So, say your congratulations and all that. That's fine. Just remember, you're not going to be dealing with the day-to-day stuff.

That's the nitty gritty! One thing you can be sure of, our beloved (yeah, right!) Prime Minister will visit Obama as soon as possible after January to receive instructions - it happens every time, trust me!

Hopefully this thread will not eventually end up in the "SinBin"...I merely wonder-- if a Caucasian male had won, would there be so many comments that don't refer to politicians in general, or the person in specific, yet are still applied to a politician? This soon as well...

Demitri: Personally, I'm a fellow supporter of McCain, though I belive it an error to feel that Any politician will hold to any idealistic (and/or reasonable!) expectations of the populace. However, out of two bad choices, only one will bode especially poorly for African-Americans no matter how well he does *coughs* Obama. Four more years ( excepting illness/resignation/assasination )... I'll have to buy more locks.

Mandrake: My condolences if what you say is true... Though, perhaps, you may find an iota of relief in the thought that either choice would've given the same result? Probably not... I never knew the English felt that was so, is this a common view on the Island?

Trust me, the UK is the 51st state of the US. Heck, Arthur Conan Doyle even put forward a proposition that we should join the union way back in the early 20th century. But then he did believe in the Cottingley fairies, so perhaps his judgement wasn't the best.

Funnily enough though I understand that many conspiracy theorists in the States actually believe that the US never gained independence and is still governed by the British crown!

Seems that whichever side of the pond you're on, people think it's the other side that's in charge!

We're both wrong of course. It's China wot rules the world now. The English speaking world appears to be going the way of Rome. But without the vomitting and orgies, which is a shame.

opie wrote:I wish to thank everyone, especially non-USA residents, who feel the excitement of seeing and hearing a President Elect who will truly, without equivocation, be the voice of FREEDOM and EQUALITY.

And, the best thing about his election is that the IQ level of the Executive Branch of our government will be at least three digits, for the first time in eight years...

pie Wan

I'd have to say the upper mid-range of those three digits as well The frightening thing being that Ms. Palin was making Georgie boy look smart... she's still not accepting that she was only brought in so she could be the scapegoat...

The Bush administration will go down in history as the most loathed and distrusted in U.S. history... John McCain will be noted for the most underhanded acts of domestic terrorism ever set into a presidential campaign in the course of this nation's existence... he couldn't run on the issues just hate filled rhetoric and innuendo.

And yes, there was a white man some 40 years ago that got this same kind of accolade and then, a few short years later, his baby brother was accomplishing much the same... radical extremist killed both of them along side another black man who made heads turn and ears listen... you see... hope, truth and inspiration are color blind and required no rudder of fear, nor an iron hand upon it, in order to create the kind of wake across the pond of life that manifests healing.

JackNimble wrote:Mandrake: My condolences if what you say is true... Though, perhaps, you may find an iota of relief in the thought that either choice would've given the same result? Probably not... I never knew the English felt that was so, is this a common view on the Island?

Oh, our PM would always be making an appointment to receive his instruction from Washington, regardless of which candidate took the whitehouse.

The big difference lies in what those instructions would be. A huge amount of Britain's domestic and foreign policy seems to be handed down from on high as part of our Special Relationship with the US. So I do foresee big change for the UK as a result of this week's election.

I agree that I'm not qualified to judge America's domestic economical situation or speculate on how it will be affected by the new administration, but I am aware of where the last eight years of Republican leadership has taken the economy - and if their philosophy really is the best deal on offer, I'd be very very worried.

Let's slow down a bit, Craig. A few speeches and a successful campaign hardly makes him a Kennedy.

The Kennedy dynasty is also far from the pillar of greatness that people would like it to be. The shine on President John F. Kennedy and Robert has dulled quite a bit since their deaths. I won't begin to talk about good old Edward. That family is as dirty and despicable as any other powerful family in the history of the world. I absolutely love how the Bush family (again, not a favorite) are spurned - when the Kennedy resume' is just as bad (or, in some cases, far worse).

I always enjoy hearing "George Bush is stupid" jokes. They never get old. Mostly because I can guarantee that as stupid as people think he is - he's more than likely a hell of a lot smarter than the people telling the joke.

But I digress...

Jack - no, I didn't feel McCain was the best choice. However, I saw him as a better choice for my own personal issues. I have no delusions about the empty promises of a politician (Obama isn't even in office yet, and he's already scaling back the grandiose promises of his campaign). Of course - everyone's too busy basking in the "history" of it all to notice that he's just another politician who won an election. No more...no less.

Demitri wrote:I always enjoy hearing "George Bush is stupid" jokes. They never get old. Mostly because I can guarantee that as stupid as people think he is - he's more than likely a hell of a lot smarter than the people telling the joke.

Including Stephen Fry?

Tomo wrote:

Demitri wrote:I always enjoy hearing "George Bush is stupid" jokes. They never get old. Mostly because I can guarantee that as stupid as people think he is - he's more than likely a hell of a lot smarter than the people telling the joke.

Including Stephen Fry?

Oh yeah, can't wait to hear a Republican's view on Stephen Fry. Let the vitriol flow.

Absolute power and all that...we'll see what Obama does over the next year or so to see the cut of his jib. Just cos he's black doesn't mean he's necessarily going to do anything different. He's just another politician.

Usually, the people who get into power, are the people i would never trust with a spoon, let alone the ability to command a nation's army and finances.

He SEEMS like a different kind of politician. I HOPE he is.

I can imagine some good ole boys down South not being happy to see him in power, for all the wrong reasons. "It's called the whitehouse for a reason sah!" i imagine some terrible little racist to say in a southern accent.

McCain has had his chips (ho ho ho that was probably a Brit joke). For a man to say "I will follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell and i will shoot him with your products" that sums up what i DONT want to hear from the most powerful man in the world.

You reap what you sow i suppose.

I just heard that there's a lawsuit which was put on hold for a while, whereby Obama is being challenged to prove he's a natural born US citizen - some doubt over whether he really was born in Honolulu and howcome he received education in Indonesia where such education is only for those born in that country. Sounds like the dirt, real or otherwise, is about to be dished....