My first show -- let me know your thoughts!

Can't find a suitable category? Post it here!!

Moderators: nickj, Lady of Mystery, Mandrake, bananafish, support

My first show -- let me know your thoughts!

Postby Filipe Oliveira » Nov 17th, '08, 23:29



I've been studying magic for the past 2 years, and I finally did my first show this weekend. The only person who's seen some random tricks throughout this 2 years is my girlfriend ( I take very seriously all the advices I've read about not performing before perfection ) but now, as I selected what I'm better on, and finally feel totally confortable with all the sleights the tricks I do require, I've been able to turn myself to the psicology and misdirection issues that are taking my vision of what magic is ( and what can be achived through it) to another level.
So I put together a little show, with mainly card parlour tricks, and wrote an interesting ( I think) script and plot to every trick, that - for this past weekend's show - I believe worked perfectly in keeping everyone interested ( during what could have otherwise been a too long show). That was one of my problems - as I did a cards-only show, and I have 6 ou 7 effects that are, in my view, stunning to a layman, I had a hard time figuring out which effects to perform, and which to leave aside. But as my script was gaining live, I felt that, with the right amount of audience participation, I could perform them all, and still be able to keep everyone interested through the show. I hope you more experienced magicians can give me a more realistic notion of what is boring to an audience, and when does that "boring" start during a show.
This is, mainly, what I've done:

1- Opened with Jay Sankey's Paperclipped - but i don't do the original version: I think the effect is way more stunning if the folded and clipped card is blue, when I'm using red backed cards ( I spread the red deck, they choose a red backed card, they sign it, and when the blue folded card is unfolded, it's they're signed card - I've chose this one because I tried both of them with my girlfriend and she was way more impressed when the folded card had a diferent colour).

2- One of my favourite card effects (maybe because of its presentation) is a Tommy Wonder's effect ( from Visions Of Wonder 2), where two cards and two bills are placed on the table, someone in the audience thinks of a card, and as the cards are showned one of them turns up to be their chosen card ( as a little miracle for me, the lady chose a PERFECT card when I asked her, so I was able to let another person choose the second card, and both match their chosen cards).
I feel this is a nice effect to follow Jay's Paperclipped, because I can tell them that I can predict a chosen card, not only when they touch a card (refering to jay's effect) but also if they meerly think of one ( introducing, this way, Tommy's effect).

3- As a third card prediction ( too much? ) I use Smart Ass, an effect where a card is placed on a chair, the lady sits on it, puts half deck in each opened hand, and throws away the half she doesn't feel has the chosen prediction. She does that a few times until there's only one card left, and it matches the card they're sitting.
I think this effect goes perfectly with the first and second ones, because as they are still stunned by a prediction of a thought card, I can go a step further and tell them that not only I can do it, ANYONE can. This effect had an incredible reaction.

4- To change gears for a second, and as I open a new deck, i put aside the jokers but then pretend that I can still do something funny with them: the jokers are actually the packet trick NFW, and 4 jokers turn into 4 kings. This is one of my favourite packet tricks, and the audience went crazy with it.

5- Finally, I put together a card to wallet routine that includes 2 other effects: I start with a signed card to shoe, tell them they weren't paying enough attention so they didn't see me placing the card inside the shoe, as I put the signed card on the table, face down, and ask someone to put the hand above it. I say I can still make it travel, all I need to do is distract him for a second: just a second is enough. So, I ask him to choose a second card and start an Ambitious Card routine with that second selected card, to put his mind away from the signed one under the hand. Finally the second card disappears from the deck, appears under his hand, and the signed card is inside a wallet the was in view from the start. They went nuts :)

6- Of course, the ID. I love that deck.


I was ready to call it a day, after the ID, but the first row asked me to go on, one more trick. And so I performed - I think it's Dai Vernon's - Poker Demonstration, but with the diference that I let the audience shuffle the deck, and didn't shuffle it myself after they returned it to me, being still able to give great games to all, but somehow a perfect one to me.
I don't know if I should have done that: this effect is less impressive than the others, and I've read extensively about always leave your audience wanting more.

Even after a one hour show with only cards, I think they all went home after having a good time, no boring moments I believe. Nevertheless, I keep reading posts about too long card shows... I can do a good coin routine, where they travel one by one from one hand to another, and the last one from my hand to a spectator's hand. I also enjoy doing bill switches, and my version of bill to lemon is not bad.

I'm sorry for this very long post, but I'm Portuguese and I find it hard to find any magic societys or clubs in Portugal. So this blogs are my only way to get some experienced magician's opinions on what I'm doing right, wrong and what should be improved.


Thank you all in advance for your help.


Cheers!

Filipe Oliveira
New User
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Nov 17th, '08, 23:18

Postby JellyBaby » Nov 17th, '08, 23:53

That sounds like an excellent show. I'm not sure about the colour change during paperclipped, I feel that would arouse suspicion - but we magicians are a suspicious lot.

I agree with you that you should not have done the poker routine - but if they left happy then you have done your job. To avoid requests for more tricks you could finish by vanishing the deck. Then it becomes impossible to do anymore tricks.

JellyBaby
Full Member
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Nov 17th, '08, 02:32

Postby bmat » Nov 18th, '08, 18:43

I hate the answer I'm about to give because it probably won't help. But I am going to give it anyway.

Don't believe that hogwash about not performing till you have it perfect. First we will never be perfect. Second performing infront of an audience is a lot different then performing in front of a few friends and family. So get out there and perform, it is the only way you will ever figure it all out.

It really does not matter what you perform, there I said it and I stand by it. You have to perform what fits you and you have to relate that to the audience. Again only experience is going to help you out. You have to engage the audience. Obviously you have to know your audience, you probably are not going to go out and perform bar magic for a group of nuns. Your routine sounds fine to me but I have to see it rather then read it but that doesn't matter. Did your audience like it?

How do you know when the audience gets bored? Just where is that critical line? You have to spend time with your audience rather then be caught up in the performance. If you truly watch them you will know without a doubt when you have crossed that line. And you will also know where your high points are. And from that info you will be able to start making slow critical changes to your show.

Have fun, enjoy and good luck.

bmat
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2921
Joined: Jul 27th, '07, 18:44
Location: Pennsylvania, USA

Postby Demitri » Nov 18th, '08, 19:39

Sounds like you had a great show!

I disagree with the color change paperclipped effect. This is a fantastic variation (Jay has shown a few variations of his own with a color change). Handled properly, it is a real killer. Definitely a great effect.

The only quibble I have - would be that you have 3 (or 4) "prediction" effects in the set. If you're going to work an act exclusively with cards, variety is a key factor. 1 or 2 variations on the same theme is fine, but more than that gets a bit repetitive. You showed some nice variations, but you have the following:

Paperclipped - which is played like a prediction effect
Tommy Wonder's effect - prediction
Smart Ass - Prediction

ID - I'm not sure how you played this one, but it can still be seen as a prediction-based effect.

See what I'm saying? You have a nice break in between these effects, but I just think 1 or possibly even 2 of them can be replaced with different kinds of effects. For myself, I would pull the ID out. The reason being - Paperclipped is presented as you having isolated a card from another deck, to be used as a prediction. The ID will be seen as almost exactly the same thing - a card was isolated before you began, and you've predicted beforehand, what a spectator would do. You're essentially opening and closing with the same effect. Personally, I wouldn't do that.

That's my advice really. A bit more variety of effects. You obviously have the skills to entertain the audience - so whatever you choose to do will go well. Great job!

User avatar
Demitri
Elite Member
 
Posts: 2207
Joined: May 23rd, '05, 20:09
Location: US, NY, 31:SH

Postby Miles More Magic » Nov 18th, '08, 22:24

Hi Filipe,

Others can give you better advice, but I can at least give you details of someone to contact for magic clubs in Portugal.

Contact: Tony Klauf, Apartado 11, Grijo, 4415 Carvalhos, Portugal

Hope that helps.

User avatar
Miles More Magic
Senior Member
 
Posts: 827
Joined: Mar 20th, '06, 22:51
Location: 43AH, Herts

Postby Filipe Oliveira » Nov 19th, '08, 16:11

Thank you all for your help!

JellyBaby,
The idea of vanishing the deck is great… indeed it solves the problem of doing any more tricks! Thanks for your help!
Bmat,
I understand your thoughts about never achieving perfection, and I believe there’s a lot to learn in performance that would never be learnt in front of a mirror. However, when I started being interested in magic and had no idea of the sleights and moves there were out there, and even now, when I see some great magician perform some effect that leaves me breathless, I usually go straight to youtube and watch some young kid perform it, and more often than not I see some mistake that allows me to understand how the trick is done. That is what I meant by not performing before perfection – I didn’t want to do a show before truly believing I wouldn’t risk giving the effect away. Only now I feel that, and therefore only now I think my brain and my body can relax and make it enjoyable.
Demitri,
I too felt that 3 predictions may be too much… and it makes sense that paperclipped and the ID are based on the same principle. Haven’t thought about that – thank you for noticing!
Darrel,
Wasn’t aware of Tony Clauf! I will soon get in touch with him, thank you for the information!

Cheers to all!

Filipe Oliveira
New User
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Nov 17th, '08, 23:18

Re: My first show -- let me know your thoughts!

Postby Ace of Shades » Nov 20th, '08, 15:18

Filipe Oliveira wrote:I was ready to call it a day, after the ID, but the first row asked me to go on, one more trick. And so I performed - I think it's Dai Vernon's - Poker Demonstration, but with the diference that I let the audience shuffle the deck, and didn't shuffle it myself after they returned it to me, being still able to give great games to all, but somehow a perfect one to me.
I don't know if I should have done that: this effect is less impressive than the others, and I've read extensively about always leave your audience wanting more.

As a musician, I can verify how difficult it is to resist the siren song that IS the call of "encore!" In my case as a magician people can't wait for me to finish, so I likely would've been blind-sided by people asking for more. I think you had the right idea, if not the right execution. Maybe in the future you can arrange the allegedly weaker effects earlier in your set and hold an extra, stronger effect in reserve in case this happens again?

I agree that maybe 3 predictions might've been a bit much - although it sounds to me like they were quite different in how you got to each prediction. What was the audience's reaction to the 3rd one? According to what you mentioned, it sounds like it was a major hit! At the end of the day, it sounded like you knocked 'em dead overall. I'm sure it's not easy to hold the audience's attention for 60 minutes, yet it sounds like you did exactly that? 8)

Ace of Shades
Senior Member
 
Posts: 401
Joined: Oct 7th, '08, 14:09
Location: Darkest depths of Branford, USA: SP


Return to Miscellaneous

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests