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Angle Zero is a trick off of the theory 11 dvd set by Daniel Madison.
the trailer for the DVDs can be seen below Angle 0 is the first trick shown
http://www.theory11.com/tricks/dangerous.php

I didn't buy the DVD so I can't tell you how good it is, nor did I purchase the 1one1 that is available. I learned the trick by watching several people do it on YouTube and figured it out for my self.

In any event, the trick is amazing. It takes a little practice and a lot of showman ship in order to be effective. there is a slight bit of set up, but its nothing difficult, and depending on when you do it or where you want the piece to appear, you can actually set the trick up in front of your specs and they will never know it. I've performed this trick several times, and every time I get fantastic reactions. Because of its set up however, it can be difficult to work into the middle of a routine which is fine because I open with it.

All in all great trick super easy no major slieghts to speak of(though you will need to know a riffle force) and I highly recommend it to someone who performs at get togethers or parties because you can set up, leave it alone and reveal it anytime and noone will ever suspect a thing.

Cheers

You can't really review a trick without having purchased it. The point of reviewing a purchase is to direct people on how, you think, they should spend their money. You can therefore not say it's an amazing trick and you "highly advise it". You can't advise it because you can't say wheter it's worth dishing out $30 or however much it costs.

Basically it's a waste of time on your part to review, or at least put it into the review section.

You say "I didn't buy the DVD so I can't tell you how good it is" so why bother posting.

Sorry to sound rude but why waste yours or other peoples time. Anyways just something to consider.

(I'm tired and in a bad mood, if this sounds a little harsh to others my apologies...)

I reviewed the trick which is on the dvd that i am too broke to buy. I dont suggest paying for the dvd or even for the 1one1 though I have read good reviews for both the dvd and 1o1 I thought I would post on the quality of the trick, as I said I want the DVD but since I dont have it nor the cash for it I am not saying buy it. I merely wanted to more or less inform as to how great the trick is and advise people who perform close up magic to attempt to learn it. As I also stated, I learned it through YouTube. So while I see what you're saying, I don't feel I'm wasting my time or anyone elses. I'm simply trying to be well helpful

Or useful not sure which really

You won't have learnt the trick properly. You have just reverse engineered the effect.

flaw07 wrote:I reviewed the trick which is on the dvd that i am too broke to buy.

That's an excuse that never flies on this board, I'm afraid.

If an effect has value for you, then it's worth saving your pennies for. If you don't consider it to have any value for you, don't waste your time with it.

Magic developers need income from sales. If they don't get that income, they won't be inclined to publish any more of their material.

This isn't like downloading a Mariah Carey CD, which would sell millions anyway - magic is a very niche market, and by not paying for magic, you're helping to weaken the whole retail industry for those of us who do like to play fair.

In short, if you haven't paid for somebody's work, you have no right to use it.

I think this is probably about as polite an explanation as you'll get on this subject.

Thanks for your time in reading this,

Pete

flaw07 is obviously in the wrong here and I really recommend to him to buy the 1on1 for $9.95 because it is a great trick. I have bought the 1on1 and it is one of the strongest effects that I do and has got me some great reactions.

Here is the description of the effect:

A signature effect from Dangerous by Daniel Madison - one of the most powerful effects on the Mystique DVD. The spectator selects a card from the deck. A corner is then torn from the chosen card, and the torn card is handed to the spectator to hold.

The corner is then cleanly, clearly vanished from the performers hand and revealed ANYWHERE the performer desires. This can be performed with any deck. The set-up takes seconds, and there are no duplicates. The corner is the exact corner from the torn card.

I performed this effect at Christmas and on Boxing Day for some of my relatives and they were blown away. The first time I made the corner go inside a walnut and the second time I made it go onto the other side of a window.

It is truly a strong piece of magic which is very easy to perform and blows people away.

not to nit pick too much but nice short review palfince but should this be in electronic formats as you are not suplied a gimick or prop.

and flaw07, I'm sorry but theft is theft even on interlectual property rights add too that your unintentional exposure of part of the routine isn't going to win you any favours on the forum.

please people don't review something youv'e ripped of / reverse engineered, it dosn't show you as smart and takes the bread out of magicians mouths and in the long term only damages magic.

here endeth the lesson, go in peace.

magicdiscoman wrote:not to nit pick too much but nice short review palfince but should this be in electronic formats as you are not suplied a gimick or prop.

You don't use any gimmicks or props, the set up does truly take seconds and can be done a long time before the performance. The main reason I like this effect so much is because it is so simple, but so strong at the same time.

i never said I stole it, merely that I figured it out, and I am planning on getting it(the DVD), but my cash flow is slightly tight at the moment, and I put it here b/c the category is tricks and props and I review A trick so I thought I had it right.

But if its that big a deal I have no issue with a mod just locking this and getting rid of it, and when I get the DVD I can provide a formal review for it

People seem to be a bit confused. Working out how a method for doing a trick from a youtube video is not theft, slightly immoral maybe but it's not theft. When a magic DVD or book is produced it is the book itself that is covered by copyright, not the tricks contained within. It is illegal to reproduce and distribute the DVD or book and it is illegal to download a reproduced DVD or book but it is not illegal to perform any material you get from the illegally downloaded material. Most magicians (me amongst them) consider the performing of illegally obtained effects theft. However, if by watching a trailer or a video on youtube of someone performing it you work out how it's done, then that's not theft. That's like when you see a magician perform an effect live and work out how it's done and when you get home you play around with cards and reproduce the effect, that's not theft, it's the fault of the magician for inadequately covering the method. (I watched one video once and I thought of about two or three methods you could use to produce an identical effect, maybe one of them is the correct method...)

I would urge the OP that if he is going to continue to perform the effect that he would buy it simply out of a moral consideration for the work that went into the producing of the trick, but it can't really be held against him if he doesn't.

As an aside, I thought the effect was a fairly standard torn card to impossible place, I've seen substantially better ones.

please people don't review something youv'e ripped of / reverse engineered, it dosn't show you as smart and takes the bread out of magicians mouths and in the long term only damages magic.

ok my apologies to flaw07, you are not a thief and conceed my first point to be wrong.
but I feel I quantified my first statement by my second statement above, if you are imoral then feel free to use other peoples work but don't post the fact on an open forum were you will be repremended.

now I'm off to steal.... sorry imoraly use, the thing, i.d, mirror box, cut n restored rope and dagger chest because iv'e worked them out.

Being reprimanded isn't an issue. And I don't mind the snide remarks, I'm actually rather used to them from the people in my neigborhood.

I mereley meant to point people in the direction of a good trick. My apologies if my having figured it out before I was able to buy it somehow offends anyone. Lock it. Sinbin it. I dont really care. I'll just sit back and let those of you with money of you handle reviews.

flaw07 wrote: I'll just sit back and let those of you with money of you handle reviews.

I know how this statement is supposed to sound but it is in fact the truth. I often feel as though I'm not contributing enough because I, not my parents, end up buying 90% of my stuff, if I want a dvd or book and I don't have money and if you really want it you save. This is a great way to start even though it may not seem good. Why is it good because you become more selective and picky with your purchases. You don't impulse buy as much because you can't afford to. You will use reviews such as these to here what working pros and hobbyists thought.

Althought it's not fun having to wait for magic, and pay for it yourself, no matter how long it takes will make it that much better. I've learned this way and it is increasingly annoying but at the same time good because it teaches you to be pennywise not pound foolish (I knew there was a moral I was getting at )

That's all I have to say about that...

Many points are relevant here, for a proper review it must be original and posted by the Reviewer, not copied and pasted from elsewhere, it should be in the right section although it can be moved if necessary and it should use the format as for all the other reviews to allow easier comparisons. It shouldn't expose or be too explicit in terms of the working and methods involved but above all it must be reviewed by an owner, not the inventor or developer and not by someone who has worked it out. There's no harm in a thread discussing something which isn't actually owned and the merits/demerits of that effect would be valid topics of discussion.

Thread moved and, as we seem to be all done here, locked as well.