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What trick is this?

Postby TheStoner » Apr 4th, '09, 22:03



I saw a great version of Oil and Water on Thursday - does anyone know specifically what it's called?

Two sets of four cards are displayed (e.g. aces and kings). The four aces are held in one hand (facedown) and the four kings slotted between them alternately (all facedown). The cards are pushed together and the top four immediately revealed to be the four aces. At no stage was there a count that allowed for DLs or extra cards. I think it might be a Tamariz trick - any ideas?

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Postby Farlsborough » Apr 4th, '09, 22:32

Sounds like a good trick... you say "at no point was there a count that allowed for DLs or extra cards", but clearly something happened dude...! If you're asking for that trick where you can genuinely push only four real aces alternately into four real kings - no counts, no DLs, no extra cards, no sleights of any kind - and the top cards are instantly the same four aces... I think we're going to struggle :lol:

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Postby queen of clubs » Apr 5th, '09, 00:08

That one armed chap (forgot his name) does what you've described as the finale to his oil and water. Maybe look in that direction...

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Postby Lenoir » Apr 5th, '09, 00:12

Rene Lavand

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Postby Harry Guinness » Apr 5th, '09, 00:39

familiar with Derren's method? Possibly that with a mis indexed king.

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Postby TheStoner » Apr 5th, '09, 15:02

There was definitely at least one sleight - or it would have been real magic! :D

I've seen Rene Lavant do this with 6 cards, and that relatively easy. Don't know how you can do it with 8 though. And no gaffs - it was a borrowed deck.

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Postby Farlsborough » Apr 5th, '09, 15:32

There's a nice version by Dominic Duvivier that I occasionally use, but as it requires E.C.s it's clearly not the one you're referring to. Still, only 8 cards, no gaffs - nice little routine.

Actually, that credit isn't accurate... the first stage (3 parts) of the routine are someone else's, and he added another few bits on to it at the end, but as I only use the first stage I suppose it's not his at all... but I don't think the other chap ever published it.

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Postby Ted » Apr 5th, '09, 18:35

TheStoner wrote:- or it would have been real magic! :D


What are you suggesting?

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