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Trying hard to not give away too much of any methods (it's hard, so mods feel free ), does anyone have a good idea for a "false memory" to use with a dual reality effect?

A fictitious scenario which is believable, but still interesting (perhaps even with a few laughs), and works for both sexes of various ages.

Also of interest is any articles, essays, books or thoughts on keeping the reality dual... mostly keeping it dual *after* the performance, when people start talking to each other. How do you avoid having the person read, unknowingly giving too much away.

I mean, ideally, you would have the subject assassinated shortly after performing, but since that is rarely practicable, what other tools do we have? Does hypnotic amnesia take a lot of effort to learn, and can it be done in a non-obvious way? Are there other options?

I don't know what a "false memory" is unless you talk about an implant through hypnotic means, which I do know nothing of.

I think requirements for a real DR effect, are a sufficient large audience, so you eliminate the "after talk" issue just by selecting 2 locally distant individuals.

But to me an DR effect like PK T****es are very strong in themselves, like due to the fact that, at least to me it never dawned on what was really happening, because the key element here is like so often presentation. All performances that I've seen so far, never done one myself. Are keyed about controlling the receiver in the case of the PKT mostly. And keyelement to me is, that you tell the audience what happens and if you convince them during the show, they will believe it afterwards. I think they will try to figure out how you did it, just by their memories, which or course at that point are allready a lil bit messed up, due to the things that you told them during the performance, what and when things happen.

I had an effect long time ago, that I read about, and never performed, but allways left me wondering if it was okay to produce instant stooges and spoil them.

Instant stooges for me are people who are real audience members but due to the nature of the effect become accomplices during the effect, the drawback in becoming an instant accomplice is, that for them the illusion will be destroyed, and even if they talk to nobody afterwards, they have suffered from the insight into the method, so I am strictly against instant stooge victims.

In the case of PKT or DR in general you allways have to "stooge" one part of the audience against the other, but I think whith no former expierence on the topic myself, that the method itself is so strong, that it can with proper misdirection, patter and explanation to the audience about what they expierenced, go well undetected.

Just an opinion.

i think you may be missing the point of D.R.

the truth is, when done correctly the conversations afterwards, should stengthen the effect.

you have to create a real senario, that neither the subject, or the audience can argue about.
an example..

Give your subject a piece of card.

on the card is written in pencil the word elephant.

though the audience are not aware of this.

you tell the subject to close his eyes, and imagine a walk through the jungle. you enter a clearing and you see an animal. dont tell me what it is... just imagine it standing there...

now, open your eyes.
take this pen and on this card, please draw..( pointing to the word elephant) THAT animal.

he will do what you have just told him to do.Because at this point he doesnt know how the trick will end.

and your work, is done.

the audience will think that he drew what anilam he imagined.. so why question it?

colin mcleoed has some lovely work on dual reality, you may like to search out his ebook .

Hmm... clumsily worded, I'm afraid. I should have made it clearer.

The subject is not hypnotized.

The method closely resembles that of effect #22 in the "easy mentalism" pdf, available from all over the web (free and legal, for all I know). Sorry if this type of reference is inconvenient, but that's the best I can do without directly exposing.

But what I'm asking for, is an interesting scenario, something that (from audience's POV) happened to the subject at some point in his past - preferably with interesting details, revealed gradually and an option for comedy. Nothing traumatic or embarrassing

I developped a serie of concepts under the name of X-Mentalism (with variation like dhampire and werewolf mentalism) based on that idea.
The basic tests are callled "the Constantine Test", "Stress Test" and the "Protocols". The're adaptable to almost any situation.
Stress Test in published in Hauntiques; the Protocols are in Compendium Sortilegionis.
You can find various developments of the other concepts on the magic cafe.