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Alpha to Omega

Postby TimEden » Sep 13th, '09, 01:29



I really like the look of this:

http://www.bigblindmedia.com/alphatoomegaoffer.htm

Any opinions?

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Postby DragunX5 » Sep 18th, '09, 10:36

Wow, looks great!

I feel uneasy sometimes performing these kinda tricks incase the spectator freaks out and decides to grab everything and look.

But that effect was amazing!!

Def work the price

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Postby TimEden » Sep 18th, '09, 13:46

My order's gone in anyway so will keep you posted.

It basically looks like B'Wave (which I use all the time) only better.

Can't wait.

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Postby Alraune » Sep 22nd, '09, 14:47

Did you already received and tested it?

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Postby TimEden » Sep 22nd, '09, 18:10

Not arrived yet.

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Postby Kevin Cann » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:40

Just looks like adding a card whilst behind the back to me

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Postby Mr_Grue » Sep 23rd, '09, 09:44

The other included effects/presentations look vaguely tantalising.

Simon Scott

If the spectator doesn't engage in the effect,
then the only thing left is the method.


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Postby TimEden » Sep 24th, '09, 00:14

No it's not just adding a card behind your back - it's a bit more subtle than that.

Got the DVD today and have only looked at the Omega effect. It does what it says BUT - naughty Stephen - there's a bit on the fliming of the effect itself where he is definitely not doing it as per the explanation. They have edited it. I have played it in slo-mo and am absolutely sure on this.

It's a shame as that one little moment is the one that does in fact make the effect a little doubtful to the spectator, should you not have the luxury of video-editing in front of their eyes!!

Can't say anymore obviously but will just have to try it out on some people and report back. Mixed feelings then. Yes - great effect and easy to do but not as seamlessly as he would make us believe, so in that sense I'm disappointed.

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Postby TimEden » Sep 24th, '09, 21:45

Performed tonight. So far so good...

Still a tad harder than the vid would have you believe but I pulled it off anyway and I've not even peeked at any of the extra stuff yet.

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Postby MagicBill » Sep 26th, '09, 17:40

I bought this yesterday and, sadly, I am a little disappointed.

Not only do I think the effect could be potentially confusing to a spectator/audience, but there are some aspects of the handling that not everyone may be happy with.

I do a lot of table hopping and I don't think this effect would be possible with things going on behind your back.

On the plus side the DVD is very nice and the extras are pretty good. The cards CAN be examined, but you have to weigh up the cards being examinable v the more difficult handling as opposed to, say, Twisted Sisters which is just as strong and less confusing and totally self working!

This will end up in one of my drawers of effects I rarely use.

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Postby TimEden » Sep 26th, '09, 18:20

I don't know Twisted Sisters but do use B'Wave which is simliar to this. I have asked myself the same question: Is the more tricky handling, and risk of being sussed, worth it for the sake of the double-whammy and the ability to have the cards examined?

At the moment I'm thinking maybe yes it is, but I'll use it a bit more and see.

I don't think the effect is confusing as such but having said that:
When I do the bit as per Stephen's demo where I apparently just turn a card over behind my back but also have a prediction which has been on the table the whole time, then ask the spectator "Which is the most impressive?", one hesitated and another even said the turning over of the card behind my back was more impressive!! This made me wonder if they were in fact "getting it"

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Postby Replicant » Sep 26th, '09, 20:36

Twisted Sisters is one of the best packet tricks ever. My opinion, of course.

With regards to AtO, I think creators should refrain from producing a video demo if it means having to edit out certain bits, which could be seen as deliberately misleading customers to secure sales. I've learned to take demo videos with a large pinch of salt.

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Postby MagicBill » Sep 27th, '09, 03:03

Twisted Sisters is better, in my opinion. Although the cards can't be examined - who really cares? If performed correctly then it's the effect that counts, and the illusion that you've correctly predicted 2 out of 8 cards is astounding!

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Postby Waldorfcartoons » Sep 28th, '09, 19:26

I don't know this product but in my opinion, it is very bad business behaviour if a demo DVD is 'modified' to make it a better sales tool. Yes, we expect some 'sales pazazz' and glamour and I know full well that the demonstrator will be a far better magician in every sense than I am. But, to mislead is unethical and criminal. If it doesn't inhibit your performance, then OK (I suppose) but if it is misleading then you should complain (vehemently) - and demand your money back - it's a breach of UCTA (unfair contract terms act).

Maybe the supplier would like to comment?

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Postby TimEden » Sep 28th, '09, 22:25

Well unless I'm mistaken...? But I have watched it a few times in slo-mo. It involved p*****g then releasing the cards onto an existing pile. On the vid they're already in place nice and straight and flat.

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