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Best Torn and Restored

Postby El Enielator » Feb 24th, '05, 03:38



What is the best torn and restored card effect, without any gimmick.

Please give your insight and explain the degree of difficulty. Thanks

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Torn and restored

Postby kardtrik » Mar 2nd, '05, 23:01

I've always loved the premise of the torn and restorn effect, but neve came across one that was deceptive enough--until my good friend, John Shyrock (fellow Yank), showed me a version with a signed card.

We were at the Magic Castle in California, in one of the little corners where magicians sometimes (always) convene to one-up each other. John finished this session with his torn and restored.

It was not, however, "his" torn and restored, but a Frank Garcia handling of Yves Doumergue's "Ripped and Restored". It is amazing. Simply amazing.

You asked for a good version that uses no gimmick, but the trick itself defies the ability to be done without a gimmick.

I will say, however, that this gimmick is extremely clever. I learned Yves' original handling and tried to incorporate some of Frank Garcia's moves--so I have ended up with a b***** child of the effect, but it never fails to make jaws drop.

I have been doing close up magic for close to 20 years, and this is singly the most magical piece of magic I have ever had the enjoyment of performing. You start clean, and with slight misdirection (very slight), you end clean.

The signature can be seen the whole time (with a piece missing). the last pice of the card to be restored is the other half of their signature.

Copperfield did a torn and restored baseball card on television some years ago that was incredibly clean. This is that clean. It's the closest thing to pure magic that I have ever performed or seen. Gasps are common.

Have I hyped it up enough? Mr Doumergue should give me a commission.

On a side note, Guy Hollingworth had a pretty good one, but I never saw it. being familiar with some of his beautiful card work, I am positive that is worth looking in to as well. I can safely say however, that his version is most likely more technically demanding, as is his style.

That is not to say that Yves' version is easy--it's not. But it is not knuckle busting, and once the apropriate amount of time and thought has been put in to it, you will have a true miracle on your hands.

Nuff said.

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Quick and Easy

Postby S_adamson1 » Mar 5th, '05, 23:37

For any experienced magicians that are looking for a very visually appealing torn and retored check this video out from penguin http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=204 in the demo OZ gives it away but if done correctly ur spectators will be amazed

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Torched and restored.

Postby kardtrik » Mar 8th, '05, 08:18

I viewed the above mentioned effect, and I can assure anyone interested that the torn adn restored by Yves, is far superior as far as cleanliness and purely visual, jaw-dropping magic.

On the DVD, by the way, he has several other versions of restoring the card, one si a mismade card, with a rapid change to the proper card. Very fast and visual. But the traditional, four pieces, one at a time tear and restore cna't be beat, ni my opinion.

The effect is as close to pure magic as I have seen in some time. Check it out, and spend the time to learn it. You'll thank me.

Allright, then.

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I agree

Postby S_adamson1 » Mar 8th, '05, 15:42

I peform Reparation By John Lovick which is essentially the same as Yves, but Torched and restored is a good alternative for people who are struggling because it is much easier to perform

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Easier...

Postby kardtrik » Mar 10th, '05, 00:10

Good point. The Torched and Restored is not without its merits--ease of performance being one of the more attractive elements.

Plus, it uses fire, and that's just cool. I would reccommend making the fire more of a part of the trick, though. It would be easy enough to add a piece of flash paper to the card to give the trick some oomph!

Remember, every second of the routine is a second that can be entertaining. In the demo, that fire is not very entertaining. Infact, I was expecting a flash, or something, but nope.

So, just keep that in mind. There are always improvements to be made.

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Postby Sam X » Mar 10th, '05, 14:51

The one by JC Wagner on Ammar's Easy To Master Card Magic - Volume 5. Really, really nice.

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Postby the_mog » Mar 10th, '05, 20:21

if i remember correctly the one mentioned on the easy to master tape is also the one that Paul Zennon based an effect on in one of his specials...(card is torn and vanished.. walnut vanishes...lemon vanishes..crack open a coconut and a lemon is inside.. open lemon and walnut is inside... open walnut and a 3 quarter card is found which matches the piece help by spec).. or have i got the wrong torn and restored??? :mrgreen:

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Postby Jeremy » Mar 10th, '05, 23:01

I do the most easy torn and restore. No gimmicks, just a force, a shill and a hanky. Easy as pie.

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Postby SlipperyPenguin » Mar 16th, '05, 14:49

Although I haven't done any for "real" as yet.. I'm torn between Yves version and Unripped (expert magic).

Yves version is very, very nice as too is Unripped (where both you and the spectator sign the card) but Unripped has a few problems towards the end (ie. You need to remove their signature from the card which, if not thought about, will destroy the whole effect.. ). However I like the fact you can hand out unripped halfway through which really adds impact.

I guess Yves wins just for the fact that it doesn't have these end problems but I found it a little trickier whilst doing the effect.

Sorry if this sounds a bit muddled but I think both are good but for me both have problems (mainly due to my lack in skill and not necessarily the effect), but I think Yves version gets it.

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yes to Yves!

Postby kardtrik » Mar 23rd, '05, 10:17

I would bet an appendage that you will no tbe disappointed in Yves' "Ripped and restored".

I've been in magic for a long time, and have alwys loved the premise of signed torn and restored card, but every one I came acros was either not impressive enough, or too impressive due to the use of a confidant.

Yves' version is one of the most, if not THE most, magical trick I have ver had the pleasure of learnig and performing.

My only regret, since I create muchof my own magic, is that he solved aproblemthat I have been stuggling with for years. Oh well, that's why we're a brotherhood, right?

Plus, I paid my $45 American to learn it. I plan on getting some mileage out of it.

In short, good choice. You will not be unhappy.

B!

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Postby shane2727 » Jun 10th, '05, 01:02

Check out this video and tell me how it compares.

http://www.ellusionist.com/order/Torn-Daniel-Garcia.htm

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Daniel Garcia

Postby kardtrik » Jun 10th, '05, 03:16

I mispoke at my earlier post. The effect shown to me was this one, by Daniel Garcia, not Frank Garcia. Apologies, all around.

The version that Daniel does is essentially the same as Yves', Daniel just has a slightly different handling of it, and is much cleaner, in my opinion.

Technically, they are the same trick. Logistically, Daniel's is better. Yves' is clean. Daniel's is cleaner.

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Postby Nikodemus » Oct 22nd, '05, 18:24

Thanks for all the comments. I am going to buy Torn!

Just one small comment on the 'Torched' version. It looks to me like the card is gimmicked & the torching conveniently destroys the evidence. BUT if you use flash paper to create drama, won't you also make it obvious that you have gimmicked the card??? If i were to perform this (which I admit I probably never will!) I would want the burning to look natural - Because supposedly it is a freely selected normal card. IMHO flashes make more sense for more stage-y effects.

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Postby Nikodemus » Oct 28th, '05, 15:59

I bought Torn & was not disappointed.
Excellent attention to detail in Garcia's explanations. When I watched the demo (repeatedly) I was mystified. After learning the secret & a bit of practice it seems really easy! He really has thought out every gesture.

One extra detail... In Torn, the spectator only signs half the folded card. The other half remains blank. But I'm sure I read somewhere a suggestion that YOU sign the other half of the card. This would provide a good justification for only leaving half the card for the scectator to sign. Otherwise it does seem slightly odd.
If you do this, you have to do a tiny bit of extra preparation (if you know the method this will make sense).
During the presentation the Garcia tearing of the card requires a little bit of covering up at one point. This is no different if you have also signed the card. In fact you can allow more of a glimpse, since all 4 pieces have SOME writing.

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